Celestia Ludenberg
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Post by Celestia Ludenberg on Sept 20, 2018 16:47:44 GMT
Good to know! Cuz Akane was telling her that Hiyoko was pushing Kyoko real hard last round and we didn't know what to believe tbh
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Post by Yasuhiro Hagakure on Sept 20, 2018 16:52:13 GMT
It's totally possible Hiyoko was pushing Kyoko super hard to Akane. I know 100% Hiyoko was telling different people different things. She just loves chaos I guess. With me, her initial thing was like, "hey we got numbers, we can take out Celes, let's go" then later it was "uh Mikan doesn't wanna do this, let's do Gundham instead" but then her messages really trailed off until she confessed to everything.
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Celestia Ludenberg
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Post by Celestia Ludenberg on Sept 20, 2018 17:07:34 GMT
Ya I don't really trust Hiyoko at all tbh. She definitely seems like the kind of person who tells everyone what she thinks they want to hear.
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Post by Yasuhiro Hagakure on Sept 21, 2018 12:54:17 GMT
I dunno if you had anything to do with it but I'm just gonna assume you did.
Thank you Celes.
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Celestia Ludenberg
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Post by Celestia Ludenberg on Sept 21, 2018 17:38:20 GMT
Ya man. Glad I could do something at least.
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Post by Yasuhiro Hagakure on Sept 21, 2018 18:46:01 GMT
Me too. I have no idea if I make it out of here but, thanks for helping.
I gotta ask just so I know what's happening, you're gonna vote me right? There's no idols or anything allowed here so, I'm hoping everyone can be open about votes right, then if it looks like this is over at least I can be ready.
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Celestia Ludenberg
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Post by Celestia Ludenberg on Sept 21, 2018 18:59:55 GMT
I'm not sure right now tbh. Like I'm really not. I haven't voted yet. Akane is putting up a good fight for Hiyoko to go. I told her to take it to Kyoko. I'm just waiting to see what my side decides. Between the 2 of you, I think Hiyoko is more dangerous and reckless, but I don't know how the others feel about her
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Post by Yasuhiro Hagakure on Sept 21, 2018 19:19:21 GMT
But Kyoko doesn't have a vote, right? What would going to her do?
Well... Hiyoko's like, way unreliable and schemey and stuff but she was also loyal to you there. I guess you have to decide, is she gonna stay that way in the future or does she turn at some point? And if she's gonna turn can you be ready for it? I'm pretty sure a lot of the reason our trials have been so crazy is because she's out there stirring things up, is that something you're willing to deal with? Do you think it'll send a bad message that Hiyoko blew up a lot of relationships to keep you safe and then you voted her, or do you think people will understand she's dangerous and had to go? It's way not an easy decision.
I do wanna say, I've heard some people think I asked Mikan to be vetoed because I've given up. That's not it. I do wanna stay in this, I don't think I can win but I still wanna play. I asked Mikan to be vetoed because I wanted her to be safe from this vote, that's it.
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Celestia Ludenberg
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Post by Celestia Ludenberg on Sept 21, 2018 20:08:31 GMT
Well Kyoko is my ally, so I'd like to discuss it with her before I make a decision.
That's all of the questions that are floating around in my head too. Especially because I am worried it will look bad to vote her out after she saved me. And I'd like to think that means she's loyal to me, but she definitely is a player that stirs things up and I don't want to be collateral damage in that. I'm being honest when I say I don't know what I'm doing yet. But I will tell you that I won't make a decision before relaying all of my concerns about Hiyoko to my team and seeing what they think about it. I guess all I can promise you is that I'm going to be doing whatever I think is best for my game and it won't be personal if I do vote you. I didn't even want you on the block this round. I'll do what I can to make sure it isn't a blind side once I've talked to people and heard what they have to say.
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Celestia Ludenberg
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Post by Celestia Ludenberg on Sept 21, 2018 20:10:06 GMT
Oh shit! And to the last part, I've heard that concern from multiple people. If I were you, I'd go to people and tell them you want to fight for their vote and see what you can do. People have been saying they think you've given up and if you haven't you need to show them that
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Post by Yasuhiro Hagakure on Sept 21, 2018 21:51:10 GMT
Yeah I've heard that from a couple people now. I've been, well I don't wanna say depressed because that's a serious thing, I've been really disheartened I guess, by how stuff has gone and who has left so, I get why people might think that. But yeah that stuff's not true, I do still wanna play.
I don't wanna make you promise things ok, that's not it. You have to do what you think is best for you 100% and I respect that. I put all that up there so you'd know I understand at least some of what you're having to think about. If you end up voting me here I won't take it personally ok, I know that's not what's going on here. You're dealing with two not great options and both have a lot of baggage and it's like now what. Gundham already said he's voting me and that's totally fine, it's really nice he let me know, I'm not mad about it. Don't feel pressured that like, you vote me and I live anyway and then things are all awkward. That won't happen.
Have you been feeling any better lately? Like, since the game has calmed down.
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Celestia Ludenberg
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Post by Celestia Ludenberg on Sept 21, 2018 23:57:05 GMT
So I'm probably voting you here, but for what it's worth, I hope you don't go home.
My reasoning here is that Hiyoko is a loose cannon and she's scary, but that saved me last round. I think it would be the wrong move for me to vote her out here. Not only because I'm grateful to her, but because I think it would look really disrespectful on my end and that's not the way I want to be perceived. It feels like my allies are going to vote you here and I think my best bet is to vote with them. If Hiyoko stays, I was honest with her. If you stay, I was honest with you and I hope you can understand. And then regardless, I will have done what I said and what the people I trust to keep me safe want and they'll trust me. I hope you aren't mad. And I hope my honesty counts for something.
Ummm well honestly that just depends on how much you actually want to know. Cuz like it got worse, but it's like not something I just want to dump on someone if they don't want to hear it.
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Post by Yasuhiro Hagakure on Sept 22, 2018 1:14:20 GMT
Yup, all that makes sense. Thanks for letting me know.
If you need to vent or if talking something out helps I'll be glad to hear you out.
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Celestia Ludenberg
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Post by Celestia Ludenberg on Sept 22, 2018 1:31:50 GMT
If it helps, if the whispers I'm hearing can be trusted, I don't think you're going home. I can tell that people are starting to try to test how I'd feel about them voting Hiyoko. I told them what I told you, I'm voting you because Hiyoko saved me last round, but I wouldn't be upset with them at all if Hiyoko and I were the only ones voting for you this round. I hope that helps.
I'll PM you. I don't think it's really fair to just put this in a public thread.
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Post by Yasuhiro Hagakure on Sept 22, 2018 2:02:29 GMT
It's hard, I don't like having to pitch things to people, but some of them want me to. And if I don't they'll just think 'oh hey he doesn't really wanna stay after all' and that's not true so. Akane is all RAR RAR BURY HER and I don't wanna do that? I just want people to decide what's best on their own.
That does help but I'm gonna be a nervous mess until the votes actually happen. Only 12 more hours! Yay!
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Celestia Ludenberg
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Don't be mad cuz I'm doing me better than you're doing you
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Post by Celestia Ludenberg on Sept 22, 2018 2:28:39 GMT
Me too honestly. Sometimes the TCs just feel so long when they're stressful
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