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Post by Mikan Tsumiki on Aug 28, 2018 18:13:51 GMT
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Post by Kirumi Tojo on Aug 28, 2018 18:19:07 GMT
And we are going to aim for middle/lower tier players right? It's very difficult to predict what or how many pieces each puzzle might be?
I think if the middle tier players are significantly easier to finish then we should definitely focus on getting those as I feel they might have fewer players going for them overall. Especially if they're foreign players.
If I had to map out what 18 positions I would go for in this challenge it would be the following:
GK GK-Bench LB CB CB CB-Bench
RB RB or LB-Bench DM- Flexible position. -possibly bench
LM- CM- CM- CM-Bench RM- RM or LM-Bench ST- ST- ST-Bench
That's kind of a rough outline for a 4-4-2. There needs to be 10 American/Canadian players, and we do have to be cognizant of our salary cap, as well as how many 450k contracts we have as we can only have 3 total.
We should focus on different positions for each round. As an example for round one, we try to go for only defenders so anything that is RB,CB,LB. Maybe for the first round we could have one person take one of the higher rated defenders and others take more middle tier players. If the high end defender is 450k that is ok as well. I have no idea if they're going to use accurate stats or contract information for these players. They could all be made up for all I know.
As a final note to this message. I will not be around basically at all after I wake up tomorrow. I have a travel day. Then I will very possibly have very awkward times for up to a week, so committing times to do this I can't really plan for since I'm unsure when I would be back at a computer to do anything.
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Post by Mikan Tsumiki on Aug 28, 2018 18:19:23 GMT
2:37 but thats on my laptop without a mouse. I should be faster.
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Post by Mikan Tsumiki on Aug 28, 2018 18:22:44 GMT
Yeah that's rough if you aren't going to be around. I'm sorry, timing in this game seems like it can be difficult.
I suppose we should also be paying attention to what other people are taking because that means they probably aren't going to go for the same spot again.
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Post by Kirumi Tojo on Aug 28, 2018 18:24:29 GMT
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Post by Kirumi Tojo on Aug 28, 2018 18:26:17 GMT
Yeah that's rough if you aren't going to be around. I'm sorry, timing in this game seems like it can be difficult. I suppose we should also be paying attention to what other people are taking because that means they probably aren't going to go for the same spot again. This is mostly true. Basically all centrally positioned players are going to be very heavily targeted because they are needed in basically all of the formations. So CMs and DCs everyone is going to need. As well as STs of course.
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Post by Monomi on Aug 28, 2018 18:31:55 GMT
feel like i should draw attention to this
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Post by Monomi on Aug 28, 2018 18:32:38 GMT
i know it doesn't make a ton of sense intuitively but it works out better this way where positions only really matter for subs
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Post by Sayaka Maizono on Aug 28, 2018 18:41:04 GMT
2:17 for the flower one
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Post by Kirumi Tojo on Aug 28, 2018 19:23:22 GMT
Ok neat.
We have a simplified version.
We can legitimately just focus on different positions all at once since any of the positions can play any of the roles that are starting. So having a CM playing at RM is completely fine. That's pretty great.
So the plan then becomes: Grab Any 4 Defenders Grab Any 4 Midfielders Grab any 2 Strikers/LW/RW Grab Any 2 Goalkeepers.
Those are the 12 things we need so we get 11 starters as well as 2 goalkeepers.
Then we need 6 unique positions of the following: RB CB LB CDM RM CM LM CAM ST LW RW
to round out the bench.
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Post by Kirumi Tojo on Aug 28, 2018 19:24:49 GMT
I'm going to be in and out today packing for flight tomorrow. From Wednesday-Wednesday I will be way above average busy. Except maybe at night, anytime I'm on here it'll probably be on a phone, and that sounds very painful.
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Post by Sonia Nevermind on Aug 28, 2018 19:25:03 GMT
2:35
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Post by Sonia Nevermind on Aug 28, 2018 19:26:08 GMT
We could assign some team members to go after certain types of players? That way we focus different things at least at the start. And the fastest person tries to grab goalies.
Unless I'm misinterpreting how the players are given out or somethign
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Post by Mikan Tsumiki on Aug 28, 2018 19:27:31 GMT
This is rough because I'm worried I won't know exactly what to go for. I'm trying to process exactly what we need for the challenge. Kirumi seems to know but if she won't be here for it, we all need to step up to help cover.
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Post by Kirumi Tojo on Aug 28, 2018 20:53:05 GMT
Round 1: Go for RB,CB,LB. Preferably American/Canadian players preferred. Budget isn't a super big deal round 1, but obviously dont immediately go for someone who is 450k that isnt super great.
Round 2: Go for all midfielders(CM,LM,RM,CDM,CAM). Any nationality is fine here. I would probably only go for one 450k player here out of budgetary concerns. If we get two that's honestly probably fine.
Round 3: Go for GK and ST/LW/RW. Nationality not super important, but ideally getting American/Canadian without sacrificing quality is ideal for both. If we aim for a 450k player they have to be super good.
Round 4: Look over what we have, and base on that. Look at budget and how many foreign players we have as those traits become more important now. Look at how many 450k contracts as well as how many the others have.
Round5: Basically the same as above.
One weirder strategy would avoiding 450k contracts and keeping at least 3 foreign slots open until round 4 while hoping the other tribes already have 3 450k contracts. This could potentially leave us our choice of 450k contracts for rounds 4/5. Of course the flipside is also accurate in that people may hold off going for 450k contracts and we could maybe get a couple within the first three rounds pretty easily.
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Post by Kirumi Tojo on Aug 28, 2018 20:55:18 GMT
The important things to track are:
How many 450k contracts each team has. How many foreign players each team has. There's a hard cap of 8 non American/Canadian players allowed on each team. Overall budget remaining for each team. Goalkeepers-each team absolutely needs 2. You legitimately cannot sign more than two. This is partly why I'm interested in waiting until round 3 to target keepers since it's not impossible other tribes might already be ok with keepers?
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Post by Mikan Tsumiki on Aug 28, 2018 21:14:58 GMT
The plan probalby needs to adjust based on what others take. If the others take lots of foreign players then it might be easier to just wait til they don't need more.
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Post by Kirumi Tojo on Aug 28, 2018 21:24:03 GMT
The plan probalby needs to adjust based on what others take. If the others take lots of foreign players then it might be easier to just wait til they don't need more. Yeah.
I imagine it'll just end up adjusting to what others do.
The pick up/release mechanic kind of lends me to believe there will be more than enough players though? I'm not sure how to feel about that otherwise.
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Post by Shuichi Saihara on Aug 28, 2018 21:54:54 GMT
So if the challenge is at wednesday 7 EST, which of us exactly will be there? I should be around then. It will affect who we have go for what.
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Post by Sayaka Maizono on Aug 28, 2018 22:07:00 GMT
I'll be around for the challenge.
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Post by Mikan Tsumiki on Aug 28, 2018 22:14:42 GMT
I'll have a hard time being there -_-
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Post by Mikan Tsumiki on Aug 28, 2018 22:15:01 GMT
I'll figure it out and show if possible.
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Post by Kirumi Tojo on Aug 28, 2018 22:32:22 GMT
I will be checking into hotel or dealing with traffic. If I'm not driving, I still wouldn't be able to do anything on a phone anyway.
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Post by Kirumi Tojo on Aug 28, 2018 22:44:10 GMT
The average salary per player comes out to just over 194,000. I don't think there's any chance they work in non ,000 numbers.
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Post by Shuichi Saihara on Aug 29, 2018 21:54:58 GMT
Did they say how many players from each tribe are playing? My times were 10:56 and 2:18 so maybe I'm not as bad as I remember.
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