Monomi
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Post by Monomi on Oct 10, 2018 2:08:12 GMT
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Post by Sayaka Maizono on Oct 10, 2018 5:44:35 GMT
Nagito:
Do you really think there's any universe where you deserve my vote?
Do you think there's any universe where I'll actually vote for you?
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Post by Sayaka Maizono on Oct 10, 2018 5:49:02 GMT
Gundham:
I really appreciated the respect you showed throughout the merge despite my steadily deteriorating position, but I absolutely hated the persona you put up. It made it almost impossible for me to feel like you were ever actually close to me. It seemed like you were acting the entire time, and once I know you're already putting on a show it made it very difficult to believe you were being off the cuff to me.(this counts as the first question)
Did you think I was a loose cannon throughout the merge, and you were worried about me wrecking your carefully laid plans, or was there some other reason for you deciding never to work with me?
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Post by Sayaka Maizono on Oct 10, 2018 5:50:44 GMT
Suichi:
Why did you say our goals were no clearly no longer aligned which forced you to vote me out?
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Nagito Komaeda
Ultimate Lucky Student
Let's commit the perfect crime together so despair can become the foundation of hope!
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Post by Nagito Komaeda on Oct 10, 2018 9:09:14 GMT
These seem like rhetorical questions but I'll answer them after Gundham and Shuichi have answered theirs. I think I have an idea but I'm interested in their explanations for voting you out.
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Post by Gundham Tanaka on Oct 10, 2018 19:21:28 GMT
Gundham: I really appreciated the respect you showed throughout the merge despite my steadily deteriorating position, but I absolutely hated the persona you put up. It made it almost impossible for me to feel like you were ever actually close to me. It seemed like you were acting the entire time, and once I know you're already putting on a show it made it very difficult to believe you were being off the cuff to me.(this counts as the first question) Did you think I was a loose cannon throughout the merge, and you were worried about me wrecking your carefully laid plans, or was there some other reason for you deciding never to work with me? First off, can you clarify a little on the persona thing, I think I know what you are talking about, but I want to make sure it's specifically related to merge and not that stupid space accountant thing I was doing on and off before merge, as those are 2 very different questions. As for the second part, it goes back to future foundation. When you talked to me about advantages and "wondering who had them" I got a message from Chihiro that Shuichi had an advantage and YOU told them about it. So when I asked you "oh and why are you asking me about advantages" (or something like that) that was me saying " Sayaka, I know about Shuichi's advantage that you were alluding about earlier. This is a test to see if you will trust me with such sensitive information." You didn't tell me, so I felt I could trust, Celestia, Kyoko and Chihiro, and that I couldn't trust you. I think Chihiro also told me directly you were already "lukewarm" on me. And I figured that even if I did warm up to you, it'd always just be safer if you weren't around. This was not helped when the Celestia wagon happened and people said you were involved, because you didn't tell me about Shuichi's useless advantage, I was inclined to believe you might be lying about not being behind the wagon. So now you had not talked to me about information you told someone else AND were part of a plot to kill my number one ally. In what world do I look at that and not see you as someone who might target me down the road? Like, in the end that outweighed anything else for me, so I figured voting for you was the proper thing to do in every single situation. Not to mention you were actually really persuasive with your arguments to keep you, so if you had survived, yeah I would have been a little scared of you. |
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Post by Shuichi Saihara on Oct 11, 2018 0:46:40 GMT
Leaving black dragon tribe, you were literally in my top two closest allies and I thought we communicated very well. But time and time again in the merge you would do plans that you never even mentioned to me or got my opinion on before doing. The first time you apologized for and I was fine. Second time you organize a Celestia blindside and don't bring me in until much later. I was... still okay but shaky. But then you tell Chihiro about my item. (who then tells Gundy who tell me). And you target Nagito a lot, which I was confused why you wouldn't get my opinion on it, because the last time you targeted a close ally of mine, it was Kirumi and you did talk to me about it, and I was perfectly reasonable about it.
The final try of you targeting Nagito in final 8 was basically when I thought we had very different goals and plans, and I thought it was better for my game if you were out.
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Nagito Komaeda
Ultimate Lucky Student
Let's commit the perfect crime together so despair can become the foundation of hope!
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Post by Nagito Komaeda on Oct 11, 2018 8:54:35 GMT
Nagito: Do you think there's any universe where I'll actually vote for you? I don't think we were ever on the same side and you spent more time with the other two finalists. It would be unexpected. I have no idea what you've been thinking for a few weeks though so I'm intending to approach everyone as if they have an open mind. Do you really think there's any universe where you deserve my vote? Deserve? As rivals, sure. I had a lot of respect for how you worked your position in the game despite being burned constantly by everyone. By the time you were eliminated I liked you more as a person then people like Shuichi or Gundham. I think that's the opposite of what you believed I'd say. I'm just going to tell you my perception of what happened at F8 when you were eliminated. The Greys were already committed to voting you, Gundham felt safe taking the night off. Shuichi had committed, Akane barely didn't vote you last round because everyone's plan was to vote you next and Mikan was closest to Akane. You asked me what you should do and I said to talk to Akane. Then I talked to her and realized she was messing with you sending you back and forth between us. I didn't want to be a part of jerking you around anymore. That's why I told you that you were getting voted out. You thought Shuichi and Mikan had no motive but they were both gung ho on eliminating you. If I told you why either of them was on you, I thought in your position I would go straight to everyone and tell them Nagito is throwing them under the bus. I wasn't trying to be smug by not telling you. I just didn't want to betray the trust of everyone who kept me informed. Almost immediately after that I was notified by everyone you wanted to vote Nagito. I meant it when I said it'd be okay if you suceeded. Without me around you could have ended up in my spot. After this we had probably the only frank conversation between us ever, about how things turned out that way. I wish this is the way we'd spoke from FF. I originally thought Shuichi was going to bring allies with him from Black but your own clique with Chihiro and his dislike of me superseded our relationship, I think. At the F8 there was just no one willing to fight for you. If you feel like I disrespected you too much to even look at my face then that's fair. I would argue that at least I didn't pretend you had a chance when the people who should have been telling you that were the ones who knew you best. |
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