Ok Nagito I've read your thing twice now too so first I wanna WAIT no hold on. First I wanna say, I finished V3, and it was a wild ride. I have super mixed feelings about the plot and some stuff still doesn't make sense but it was super fun and it's too bad I couldn't keep delivering you goofy theories because boy was I off. Also I watched the anime one, where it's like here's a fun episode of the island characters having parties, and then here's a fun episode in the future with a bunch of people I've never heard of dying all over the place. I actually ended up really liking this thing but it was a bad idea to watch it when you're already depressed about danganronpa stuff especially episode 20 holy hell was that a bad time.

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OK my first question is - I think it's kinda weird how hard you're downplaying all the idol stuff! Because I spent a bunch of time trying to figure those things out too, I tried getting help from other people and got nowhere. If you didn't think they were important, you wouldn't have read some random story (wha?) and uh everything else involved. I wanna make my first question about how you solved the things because I'm dying to know BUT this is jury and I'm focused so, my first question is if you put so much effort into finding the things, y'know indicating you valued them, why are you downplaying them so hard now?

Hiro, while I'd want your vote, I don't really expect it. We didn't click when we first met, I spent a lot more time talking to other people. The only thing I'll say is that I was upfront about our relationship and made it clear I was voting you (which I always expected to do). Spending a lot of time trying to be really nice to you and then voting you off when I suggested you get put up would have been disingenous, and I definitely feel that would be worse than just not being close with you. If we can move past that I'm more than willing to convince you to vote for me, but it'd only be on grounds on how strongly I played (or didn't play), not on my relationship with you. Which well....kind of fits our relationship pretty well, yeah.

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Ah, the answer is a mix of a few things. Mikan's comments about a raccoon didn't help. I wasn't sure if you wanted to hear about it! I decided to wait until someone asked to know more. I was a bit disappointed I didn't get a cool chance to use them. It was important to me to be situationally aware enough to know if I had to use one or if I could save them for a faux immunity run. There were two points I thought I might need to play one.

First, Future Foundation was a horrible tribe for me. Sayaka's first conversation with me was about how she'd drop Shuichi at the drop of a hat and she didn't think there was room for me in her majority. Gundham and Chihiro weren't opening up to me. Celes reacted negatively when I asked if Gundham was trustworthy and when I suggested Celes/Kyoko/me/Shuichi were 4. On top of that I had told her I wasn't that close to Teruteru, but when presenting the vote back to me she acted like she was delivering extremely bad news. It came off like the only opinion on who's friends should stay didn't matter was mine. She didn't tell me just how much she'd shared with Gundham but I'd gotten the hint if we went to a second TC an idol was going to get played.

Secondly, during the F12 merge round. I've heard that started as an assumption the situation on Future Foundation would hold with me/Shuichi on the bottom. Again I was being provided with enough information to idol if that hadn't passed. To be honest I don't think it's possible for the situation on a closed tribe just before merge to hold once you introduce 5 more people, when not everyone on that previous tribe wanted you gone.

After this I didn't feel in danger until the F6. Chihiro pulling from the game was a huge part of this deal. If he hadn't I'm sure he would have tried to blindside me. After he was gone I was confident I could use the idols to be immune until the F4.





On idol hunting. I thought it was important if not to get everything to at least be aware of what was in the game. I didn't keep my hunting a secret in the slightest, I shared possible locations as a gesture of good will. Here is a brief (ha) list of possible items I was aware of.

- There was a link on Shirokuma to a crossword puzzle with the message "magic this and puzzle mom say the word prize your completed send first for". My mistake was thinking "Mom" referred to Shirokuma because the picture was on her avatar. I suspect the correct recipient was the spectator Teruteru's Mom. When the crossword was replaced by a dead body picture I learned you could never be sure how many things there were to be found. A lot of the trick links are Rickrolls so me and Mr. Astley have become strongly acquainted.

- When the mods reposted the links to the Supreme Leader forms I thought there was a reason and gave them another look. In the middle of Socrates's speech was the message "In part two, use your letters to form the name of a legendary deceiver and private message it to a moderator for a chance at a prize, only one guess allowed and don't try it before starting part two." Because there was only one shot I also told Chiaki and we sent in Loki and Lucifer. I got Usami's Wand here.

- In Labours of Kirumi there are tiny hidden links in all the links to outside sources for Tasks. I found this by accident while clicking on one of the links post-challenge. Finding all five bears got me the Team Danganronpa Idol.

- Korekiyo said there was an idol clue if you picked the Despair option on the elimination challenge, but I didn't see one. The video itself has a split second secret message about not being an idol clue and not being its real dad lol.

- I realized the Mafiascum thread was bumped when the merge happened and found the signup form was changed to this: imgur.com/oWvgPUl
I opened the Lab early enough the subject said "Hmm" and the message was Monomi would edit in a rickroll as soon as she wasn't on her phone. Because it wouldn't be the first time something was edited out it seemed safer to assume there were at least two items in the merge besides mine.

- Shuichi showed me his fake idol, with the attached note saying it was fake. He'd already showed the mystery version to Kyoko and Sayaka. He wanted to show Kyoko the fake version. I suggested that Sayaka, after having met her, was not trustworthy and would tell everyone about his item. And that if he told Kyoko it would not be long before everyone knew it was fake so he shouldn't do it. I don't know if he did or not. If he wanted to use it as a bluff, I said it would probably look more authentic after someone (haha) played a real idol that looked like it.

So here's the thing. I can be social. I just - don't - like it in these games because I always get way too attached and emotional playing when I begin to get super close to people. Like you should know this better then anyone, you struggled when your friends died. If you didn't get close to them personally, you would have been fine .
If I keep it primarily game focused in talks, then the people I vote out will never take it personally. And my votes never are. Like I said, my first tribe I started playing that way and getting to know Kaede socially, and it felt like a huge punch in the gut when I saw her get voted out. I also did get to know Kirumi pretty well, and that was a brutal loss. After I had the alliance in mediators set up, I felt it safe to gamebot and emotionally easier.

I'd love to get to know you guys after the game, I probably know a lot of you pretty well already. It's there I can chat and not have to worry about getting too close to people that I actively need to hurt to get the win condition fulfilled.

Anyway, after that, I tried to find a nice middle ground of social and gamebotness. (Wow, the perfect middle again. Aristotle was onto something with that mean)
I got to know people personally after that, but I'd try to keep it clear that I viewed this first and foremost a game and not to take things personally. I think that was the best way, since I got to appreciate people, but not in the way it got miserable to vote against them.

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Shuichi 2: Shuichi has 2 Hs IN IT SAYAKA. GOD GIRL GET IT TOGETHER

Quick response to that - Yeah I fell into a hole when I lost Ibuki, Hiyoko and Chihiro bambambam one after another. I think we talked about this a bit, there's definitely bigtime highs when you open yourself up like that, but then you're also vulnerable to those lows too. It's taken some time to get over but, I still think this game was worth it. Anyway ok, thanks for clarifying.

Something I'm curious about. You said this threesome that we see before us was formed way early in merge, a "ride or die pact" or something right. Was I ever a consideration for something like this? Did you ever think I was worth talking longterm strategy with?

I appreciate you talking me into selling my positives. I am proud of finding them. The safety idols afforded me combined with the information I always had isn't something I should be underselling. Actually something that bothered me during Future Foundation, I heard you and Hiyoko were in trouble on Despair and I wanted to see if sending you an idol through your cliques was possible. Celes didn't seem into you enough and Gundham kept vacilating between his clique being low activity/boring and not wanting Hiyoko to go. I didn't trust either of them not to just keep it for themselves. Possibilities like that are something I thought about often.

You're welcome. I saw it like that, yeah. Not like the person in charge but more like Zazu or Jafar or a court jester, something like that. Celes said that she was wary of me because I'd wait for her plan instead of proposing my own. I did this with everyone. The reason being rather then put my agenda out there I would pick whichever plan suited me. There were so many plots that this worked for naming anyone. After the field cleared around F7 I made my opinion clearer, like telling Celes and Gundham I was voting one of the Greys, obviously voting Akane for targetting me, and not taking no for an answer on a Mikan vote. Although Mikan lived, I was still in the majority on every single vote this merge. 

I did check certain things like see whether Celes wanted to pair with me/Shuichi in FF, find out whether you and Hiyoko wanted to band together, if Gundham would propose something with me and Hiyoko, if he would suggest the F3 with Shuichi I knew we were functionally in, if anyone in any universe would vote Gundham out, and see if Mikan would want to pair with Akane after F8.
The answer to those in order: Definitely not, no you seemed a bit distant and then you had a falling out over the Celes Blindside leak, no Gundham just seemed to like having someone he knew around, yes he finally cracked, no I was stuck with him and yes Mikan and I discussed officially working together with Shuichi/Akane against Grey. 

Shuichi 3: Gundham's right, your hat is stupid

I gotta admit I hate my last two questions for you because they're much more relevant for me than anyone else and I've been trying really hard to ask things that'll help everyone evaluate you not just me. Thing is I get your game so I don't have as many questions about it I think.

In your opening speech you said this: This doesn't like up with my experience though my dude. On Mediators when you came to me out of desperation, my thought then, and well honestly now too, was you thought I was a drooling moron unworthy of your time until suddenly you had no options left. I'm pretty sure I didn't talk to you about the Celes thing because I didn't know where your head was at, I think I also talked towards the end of my Pre Spooky Ghost Period that you were the most mysterious person in the game for me. You definitely never felt like the easiest vote to get on my side y'know? So talk to me about that one a bit, did everyone truly feel this way about Shuichi?

Gundham 3: Taking Tokyo

Ok Gundham I'm not the smartest dude in the universe so I'm struggling a bit coming up with a good question for you. I think partially because like, lack of personal interactions. So I'm gonna ask a bad question instead and apologize in advance for it.

When I read a lot of your stuff you come off pretty cold. Like your story seems to be, I supercomputerbrained everything and lined up all the little chess pieces where I wanted and then clockwork here I am. Since you dunno me that well, I'll just go ahead and say I'm a super emotional, loyalty/honesty based (and bad) player, which is why so much of what you've been saying doesn't really do much for me. And then. AND THEN. You went over to Chihiro's thread and poured your guts out and I'm like WHAT. WHAT IS THIS. Like you talk about watching your friends die off and you're powerless to stop it and how hard that was and swearing revenge? Writing a giant rambly emotion-filled wall about how hard this journey has been? That speaks to me. Where the hell as all this when you were pontificating about random winner qualities? That's not the actual question. I dunno what the actual question even is. Uh. I guess my question is either:

* Where has all this stuff been all this time?

or perhaps

* ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Haha that's fine, every juror can ask what they want relating to them.

But your second part is slightly ironic, because it was me working with you on the Toko vote that was one of triggers to have Chihiro to move against me. I guess to start from the beginning, there was that blue-green alliance formed in the first challenge. When the swap happened, the alliance between me, Kirumi, Chihiro, and Ibuki went into swing. I didn't talk any long term strategy with anyone else yet because I didn't want to seem like a double dealer and wanted them to trust me. (I also wanted to just be an UTR guy getting to know everyone first before deciding on my strategy)
But none of that was against you because I barely met you. I quickly grew to find you hilarious (Kirumi liked you too) and thought you'd be someone to work with in the future. I knew the 4 person alliance was not going to harm you because we'd swap long before the votes started getting sketchy.

During the Toko vote, it was me and you that worked together and did the vote split. I was the one who voted with you. I did this because I wanted to start building trust with you for future councils and get some work experience together you could say
After Kirumi went home, I felt like there was no point in trying to gain trust with Chihiro and Ibuki anymore, and I felt no issue in being a lot more aggressive with an alliance with you, but in hindsight I probably should have waited until I was in a better position so it looked more sincere. I remember waiting until after the challenge was won before asking for an alliance though so it wouldn't put you in an awkward spot. I also told Nagito that if he ever swapped with you, that you were baller and he should join up with you.

Next time I see you is the merge.
Here I am very well aware that you didn't view me as a safe person to talk to for the first bit. And I was planning on putting a lot of effort into fixing that.
First vote was Ibuki who I was targeting and knew you liked, and I didn't think we'd really get a lot of quality bonding time killing your best friend together, so I didn't do too much with you that round.
Next round was a very delicate round for me, and I actually had no idea which side you were with, and didn't want to say the wrong thing. I knew Celestia was in your clique and she trusted you, so I didn't write off the possibility you were more loyal to her then the other group. So I basically had to go by this council without talking to you much again.
But that was the last time. After that I quickly wanted to start actually building a relationship and trust between us, and maybe actually go far together because the pathway was there. A lot of your concerns here are actually in your final PM to me, which I was planning on answering, but you died before I could. But you were at the point where you were telling me your concerns at least, and I think we would have been on our way to being more open had Akane not violently cut your life short

I think I'm getting to this last mainly because it's the hardest to answer, but I don't think it's a bad question at all. I think it's exactly the right question for you to have. Like...it's well yeah complicated. Like...I'm not actually surprised...I get this reaction a lot. Like I'm pretty sure I've had allies that HATED me in game in my younger days, and then after the game we actually just check in on each other out of the blue. It's uh hard to explain, so I guess I'll start by answering your question.

I mean the quick answer is in my confessional. I put a lot in there, well my best attempt to explain what was going on, but there are like...actual vigils for leon and chihiro in there for everyone to read. They aren't anywhere near as long as that post from yesterday but yeah they're there. Like it just takes...a lot to actually set me off. I am really good at suppressing emotions and pain and the reaction to them. And then, I get pushed past my limit, or I meet someone who is just so nice and kind hearted that they....sneak in, and I can actually be emotional and gushy. I know it's pretty much a trope, the stoic person who actually a secret softy, but it's kind of actually true for me. And I know this game can be high stakes, I've talked to people who still have terrible memories from days gone past and I know that even as I was voting out celeste and tears came to my eyes that she was crying even harder because what we always thought would happen, happened. And like, I came into this FTC, knowing that I was probably at a disadvantage, that shuichi and nagito brought me here because they thought I could be easily beaten that I didn't do all that much. And that just wasn't true, I was hella active in places, but most of the people around just weren't there, and after sayaka was out, I was the only person in the game who actually was there. People confused me doing stuff with other people that they knew as those other people doing stuff for me. Like is there an issue with having strong allies? I don't think so, I certainly hope you don't think so. But I figured, eh, if I just explain some of that stuff in that speech people might reconsider, but...it missed something, like what I was actually thinking, what I was actually doing it for. It was a list of actions, not a story, not a game. And at first I didn't notice this, I thought I'd fight on some weird ideological field and people would play it and be like "eh that was interesting, why not?" but that was stupid. 

And it didn't help that Mikan was like "they won't believe you" before I came in. And then I got here and the first questions were like, meh, and then it started to feel off. Like Hiyoko asked for 1 sentence, 1 fucking sentence, no indication what they were looking for, for me to change her mind. That's disrespect, even after I literally fought for her, phase 1, phase 2, phase 3 and even phase 4, trying to keep her alive, nope...nothing about that, just "your game sucked" as if she knew everything. And mikan didn't even ask questions, just acting all smug like they were all knowing and seeing because they know how survivor works but not me or nagito. I don't mind saying this because I don't think I have their votes anyway and even if this swayed against them I don't really care. And then I got a lot of shit wrong with celestia, she still liked me a lot, yeah, wasn't fun. And I dunno, it was reminding me of FTC of the last game reverse the curse, where people were ragging on jigglypuff for "not doing anything" and how they "did a perfect hungrybox roleplay" and I fucking hated seeing all of that (and I was nowhere even near that level of disregarded). Even if you think someone is lackluster they deserve a chance, and I mean more than an opening statement and 1 question. So I was pissed off, I started asking those questions I mentioned in ramble number 1 yesterday, what else could I have done, and I literally did not know what I could have done differently(I know what one response is an I'll get to it because I'm explaining how I operate but haven't yet connected it to what you saw). And then I got that question from chihiro, someone who I trusted a lot in the game and who I never really got closure with, someone who actually did break through a bit, and all that I had pent up, all that I had tried to suppress during the game from clouding the execution of what I wanted to happen, kind of came spilling out. To be honest I'm glad I did because I have an idea of where my closing statement is going and it's nowhere near where I was.

And how do you reconcile that with the person you met, with at least the one that was PMing you, well, I'm not sure exactly what you can say aside from "you had to be there to fully understand" but I think I can relate to you a bit. I know how down you were when chihiro went down, shuichi described you as a man who had lost his will to fight. So you know that despair (and yeah it was despair), and now just shift that going forward, but having that happen round after round after round. And knowing that the people you've already met are probably going to hurt when they go out, especially if you end up killing them. And like...what do you do? Do you, after caring so much, go back into it throwing and letting people break in or risking that you may make them like you, onyl for you to see a whole new group of people die, or worse betray them. Like how can you do that? So instead I surface level responded to you, I mean we did share some fun things, but it's not like we connected deep and understood each otheI focused on keeping my friends alive and using my best abilities to get to the end for all the ones that couldn't. And I'm not sure if I was always thinking that, but now that I'm here, yeah I do want to do it for them, cause I miss like...all of them. (As you can tell when I get all touchy feely and passionate the comprehension of my speech just plummets so sorry about that, especially since I've been writing like I'm running out of time to all these questions so maybe they weren't as pointed as I hope).

And I do think passion is the way to describe it, I love stories. I love heroes who fight, and I love the idea of a battle of honor and respect, of fair discourse. I love the idea of them, the ones who keep going. And I see this game as sort of a battle, after all, while we decide where we stand there are a lot of things that we just don't control that affects that (what tribe we land on, what happens on other tribes, random challenges that eliminate someone), but how can you not want to fight for those who you were with at the start, before everything got crazy. And yeah I'm passionate, because I want to see my side triumph, I want to fight hard, and win hard, and I will pay the cost. I mean, like...so going in I had this silly analog that I'm not quite sure actually fits given what's happened in all the thread about shuichi and nagito being soldiers and me being a general, being the one who has to make hard decisions, who has to manage his troops, and has one goal above all, achieve victory. And I'm not sure if it holds for the shuichi and nagito part, but I think the last part still does. Funnily enough this also made me want to plug Clash of the Mash 2018, sign up on the forum, like actually, sign up. But back to our scheduled programming. And I'm not sure if this helped you reconnect the dude you met with how I am aside from me saying that I am really really good at hiding everything that's underneath everything and that you are just approaching the "wait, he has feelings" reaction that always happen.

Also I'd like to say thank you for not wrting me off, like I know you don't have to vote me, and have a much better relationship with shuichi and nagito, but at least you gave me a fucking chance, that's more than some did (to be honest it felt like a glimmer of hope). And hopefully seeing what I did this game, how it's gotten misconstrued and was mostly invisible during merge by many people, it makes you think really hard about your vote. And maybe, just maybe it will go to me, but even if it doesn't at least I made you think. Also love to meet you on the other side, rereading your explanations of things and how you phrased questions, I concur with Nagito, you really may be the funniest man alive. But also, when I make my closing statement, I'm going to be the Hiro of my story, k? See you at reveal.