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Post by Monomi on Oct 10, 2018 2:06:38 GMT
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Post by Ibuki Mioda on Oct 10, 2018 19:43:50 GMT
hey guys!! im the juror who knows the least about the game and has spent the least total time with any of you, so i'm gonna ask this question with an open mind and a smile ^-^
what was the most fun you've all had in this game? it could be a round, a few minutes, a vote, or anything, really! 😊
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Post by Gundham Tanaka on Oct 10, 2018 20:01:32 GMT
hey guys!! im the juror who knows the least about the game and has spent the least total time with any of you, so i'm gonna ask this question with an open mind and a smile ^-^ what was the most fun you've all had in this game? it could be a round, a few minutes, a vote, or anything, really! 😊 Oh God, this answer is gonna need an explanation, but almost definitely the entirety of silver foxes, actually probably the 20 questions round. Like, I enjoyed grey tribe, but there were only 2 people to talk to who I immensely enjoyed (and there was a serious case of "oh fuck we might die here" with that first challenge. Meanwhile on Silver Foxes there ended up being 3 people who I absolutely adored. There was Makoto, who I enjoyed on Masterminds but we definitely got closer there. We ended up sending nothing but history memes to each other for a good day or so. And example of something (that is not in my PMs because quoting rules):  We uh...had a similar sense of humor. There was Leon, who loved memes as much as the next guy and who was just baller in general. We ended up having a running joke of ending conversations with this song: And there was Chihiro, who send me dinosaur comics and I sent them a bunch of things, after originally bonding over veggietales songs. Like this one: Just an interaction with one of them would have been enough to make me happy with a tribe, but I got all of that together. And the 20 questions round we didn't have to vote anyone out, so it was like that a lot. Not to mention we really talked a lot about challenges and all pitched in as much as we could, when we could. Chihiro legit watched wheel of fortune for hours to prepare for the tiebreaker that round. |
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Post by Shuichi Saihara on Oct 11, 2018 1:15:36 GMT
Hello again Ibuki. It feels like a very long time since I saw you last.
The most fun I had was doing the challenges! It might be getting old to praise the mods on this, but oh well. I even did a torchwalk for the challenges that I need to finish.
My other favorite time was the hope tribe where we kept winning, and everyone on that tribe was great. It was like the build-up before the beat drop and just an exciting and hype time in general. (Other tribe was great too, but I didn't feel like I had the time to get to know them as well)
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Post by Nagito Komaeda on Oct 11, 2018 11:14:35 GMT
hey guys!! im the juror who knows the least about the game and has spent the least total time with any of you, so i'm gonna ask this question with an open mind and a smile ^-^ what was the most fun you've all had in this game? it could be a round, a few minutes, a vote, or anything, really! 😊 Not gonna lie finding two idols in the first four rounds made me feel on top of the world. I didn't expect something like that to happen but the appropriateness made me laugh. ULTIMATE LUCKY STUDENT status secured. The bears and Audience did a lot of hard work filling this forum with hard to filter garbage, figuring it all out tickled my puzzle loving brain. I had the most fun during the challenges, because people talked less about the vote then and more about their lives, interests, anything fun really. Those were the times I slipped in funny stuff I thought the other person would enjoy with me. TBH none of these will top the time Yasuhiro sent me a pm he meant to post in his confessional. I will compilate the favorites I sent, as soon as I confirm with the mods posting videos/memes doesn't break some pm rule. |
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Post by Ibuki Mioda on Oct 11, 2018 11:35:34 GMT
okay thanks ^-^
next question: if you guys could choose one of the two people sitting next to you to win, who would each of you choose and why?
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Post by Shuichi Saihara on Oct 11, 2018 13:34:23 GMT
I have time for one, and then I'm away until work is done again.
That's a good question. It's close enough that I'd really want ask questions before deciding a winner. But if I had to choose one as of right now with everything I've read it would be Nagito.
One of Gundham's main arguments so far is how he accomplished a lot of his will through Celestia and his tight alliance with her, but it doesn't leave me dripping with inspiration when I consider he voted her out right before the end.
A lot of people throughout the game didn't trust Nagito and viewed him as shady, but yet he still made the end. So if his shadiness didn't get people to vote him out, I'm still okay with that. He was good at positioning himself and people didn't actually vote for him until it was too late and he had idols out the wazoo.
I also would favour him because I still appreciated the times where he'd cheer me on in the clique pre-merge.
But I was impressed when I learned Gundham was the one that got Akane to flip the vote to Yasuhiro. If he had more stories like that, I'd potentially put him ahead of Nagito.
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Post by Ibuki Mioda on Oct 11, 2018 15:15:37 GMT
okay i was waiting for nagito and gundham to answer that last question before i asked the individual ones but i guess theres not much time left so:
Shuichi:
as you may know, you and me spent the most rounds together, with four. however, we never really... clicked with each other, i guess? as you may also know, survivor is a social game, and it in the end it depends on the relationships you made if you wanna get someone's vote. so answer me this:
whether it be strategic, social, or physical, what specific aspect of the game should i base my vote on tonight?
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Post by Ibuki Mioda on Oct 11, 2018 15:21:53 GMT
Gundham:
as i think youve seen already, your social game has been a big topic of discussion (or at least i think). however, i only knew you and nagito for one round. what makes your relationship (strategic or social) with me different/better than nagito's?
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Post by Ibuki Mioda on Oct 11, 2018 15:23:25 GMT
Nagito:
i think you said earlier that you stand out because you didn't treat your friends as if they were meaningless statistics. based on the other jurors' reactiobs to the final three, is there anything you would change about your game, given the chance?
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Post by Gundham Tanaka on Oct 11, 2018 15:50:07 GMT
okay thanks ^-^ next question: if you guys could choose one of the two people sitting next to you to win, who would each of you choose and why? Easy, Shuichi. Like this isn't even a question for me. It isn't even because I think Shuichi played the best game of the two. I mostly just care about my realtionship of the two of them. Like I think Shuichi completely glosses over that while, yes, we did originally talk in hypotheticals, no one approaches you and says "so lets talk about your end game plans" and is not intending to make a final 3 deal with you. Like that stuff happened because of what I initiated, but I approached shuichi because despite me having every reason to like and work with nagito (similar allies, he liked kittens, etc...) he just gave me odd vibes, like he was never going to trust me, like I never knew his actual opinion on things. Didn't help I knew I was on a list of people to be targeted by him (when he wasn't even on my radar at the time, I just thought he was odd). And like, in every single round shuichi and I talked about his vote, I knew where it was going to go no matter what, like there's a reason I was more certain on mikan voting akane over shuichi, his vote was locked. But like eh, it was fair, I understood it. Nagito, in the round where he was like "yeah that f3 is good, let's start actually trusting each other"....voted hiyoko and didn't tell me. He said that he didn't want an earful from hiyoko but he could have just asked to like...I dunno, not tell hiyoko and instead I could talk to him about the vote. Not really showing a lot of goodwill during that. And the round after when I was like pretty certain he voted for me (and him saying he kept trying to get votes on me confirms that I wasn't certain on this even if I don't think anyone's claimed the vote from that round) I was way more sure that he voted me over mikan, just over the way he handled it. Like he continually mismanaged me, who was supposed to be his ally, and threw away a perfectly good chance at a strong relationship that I was trying to build up. He also never told me about his idol which I was 100% certain he had, whereas shuichi told me about his useless advantage (no like seriously it did absolutely nothing and was only good for bluffing) even though I already knew about it. Like Shuichi played me right, Nagito played me wrong, it's that simple. |
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Post by Nagito Komaeda on Oct 11, 2018 18:58:51 GMT
Sorry for keeping you waiting, I had to take a break to sleep briefly. I'll answer your other questions in a minute, just want to finish the first one before I don't have access to these. Celes preferred dogs but seemed to dig cute hedgehogs just fine. While Kyoko got more specifically memey things and Akane and I shared more playfighting things, for lack of a better word. I thought it was funny Akane and Kyoko didn't get along because I sent them similar things, maybe they're a bit too alike. Chiaki knew DR really well so we joked about how horrifying a Nagito x Chiaki pairing actually was. Yasu and I's were all about weird humor. The videos I sent to everyone a bit. Celes: Kyoko: Akane: Chiaki: Yasu:   Also forced him to watch "danganronpa basically". Sadly failed in mission to change his member title to "I'm literally too dumb to kill anyone" or "That's a whole ass lie". Various Videos (spoilers 4 everything, nsfw. My favorite is the last one, the DRv3 but it's a poker game)
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Post by Nagito Komaeda on Oct 11, 2018 20:02:30 GMT
okay thanks ^-^ next question: if you guys could choose one of the two people sitting next to you to win, who would each of you choose and why? This question is difficult to answer because if I was on the jury I probably would have voted for the third person. Only Mikan wasn't a sure lock, but I respected the way she survived more then the way the other two seemed like default endgamers. So I hadn't thought about which one I'd prefer. I've read both their speeches just to see what their perspectives were. Gundham's speech despite being 70% unreadable has a lot more information in it that I didn't know and technical things that he achieved. I didn't like him as a person and I didn't really treat him like a possible juror because in my opinion he wasn't. There were a lot of times in game after our F3 pact that Shuichi and I'd discuss whether we should consult Gundham on what we were doing and said no, he would probably still F3 with us anyways. What I would have been looking for is proof he wasn't irrelevant and surprisingly he had a few things like convincing Akane that I didn't expect. Shuichi in my opinion omitted a bunch of things he did to look better, especially involving me. As someone who spent the entire game with him I think I have different requirements for him to have impressed me. I'm sure he would have written those parts differently if he was appealing to me as a juror rather then an opponent. It still left a terrible taste in my mouth to see him pretend it took Gundham for us to start working explicitly together. I felt like he was low on perception of how little the people he alone met pre-merge seemed to value him, hence how he ended up with all my friends instead. Still he was my plotting buddy and I enjoyed the shenanigans we got up to together. This isn't really an answer. If you'd asked me before FTC I would have said Gundham would never get my vote. I think I'd have more of an open mind now. |
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Post by Ibuki Mioda on Oct 11, 2018 21:40:31 GMT
okay but seriously the thing thats most important to me is the individual questions. can you guys pls answer them before deadline 😅
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Post by Gundham Tanaka on Oct 11, 2018 21:45:37 GMT
I'll be on this one next. I need to get food first though.
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Post by Gundham Tanaka on Oct 11, 2018 23:25:13 GMT
Gundham:as i think youve seen already, your social game has been a big topic of discussion (or at least i think). however, i only knew you and nagito for one round. what makes your relationship (strategic or social) with me different/better than nagito's? Okay, so like most of my answers, this will be answered in a roundabout way. Because I will focus on the strategic aspect of my game with you, and I'm going to do it by tell the story of the phase you died, from the perspective of my PMs with Celestia, since they are about as accurate to how I remember that phase. The phase begins with us making merge, and akane telling everything about your tribe to Celste, and celeste telling me everything. About how initially leon and makoto were working with everyone except hiro and hiyoko and how you and mikan were apparently playing the middle. How when Leon left all hell broke loose, and Makoto somehow ended up with hiyoko and hiro targeting kiyo, and then akane flipped everyone (well not everyone) to voting him, and about the public stuff with kiyo. This was well before we started messaging broke loose. And then an alliance with you, akane, nagito and celeste was offered....where she noticed kyoko and I were not part of it. I also learned that Sonia had items when she died...yadda yadda yadda, that isn't important. Meanwhile instead I'm trying to pull in Hiro and Hiyoko (this was before hiyoko decided to start and leak a celeste wagon). During this time your name as a wagon was mentioned by Kyoko but nothing was settled. In fact Nagito was an option, but it seemed apparent Celeste didn't want him voted out (despite placing him third on a list of people she wanted to vote out). But there also existed wagons forming on maybe Sayaka started by Akane this phase (that checks out). Then Celeste and I take a break from the info dump and flirt a little (as one does with celeste). I also told Sayaka that Akane was after her, forgot about that. Then Hiyoko started pitching Nagito, and when that wasn't working (shocker when she pitched it to Akane), pitches Sayaka as well. So at this point Celeste and I are like....well fuck, Sayaka going is not what we want, and everyone wants to have a mind of their own. So we list off who we want gone the most, and maybe celeste was lying, but she put Akane first and you second. I put Nagito second and you third. Also around this time some sort of Hiyoko wagon might have been forming (which was stupid when Hiyoko had her laptop break and couldn't win immunities). At this point I went to Sayaka and told her TO NOT DO THAT WAGON. Then Celeste and I kept talking and I learned about kyoko's legacy advantage and we all also made a final 3 (kyoko did not know I knew). So you are wondering...how did this lead to you dying, two wagons, and your name was mentioned once. Well then, literally at 4 AM, I was like "weird idea, what if we just vote out Ibuki". Now yes this was originally kyoko's idea, but this is when it became action. As it was 4 AM Celeste was wondering how doable and I was like...very, citing your relationship with chi-chi, sayaka definitely wanting to live, along with the three greys and how shuichi would also likely be there, from there we just needed hiyoko or hiro on board. I also suggested that if a swing vote wasn't voting how we wanted we float a counter wagon onto them to force them to vote Ibuki, we didn't need to do that. So the one issue was...it was really late, and I don't even think second immunity had happened. But point is we told kyoko and sayaka about the plan and they were down. Then the next day there was weird stuff with sayaka talking about the wagon on her with akane and it felt like the sky was falling because she might have wanted to flip to the other majorit and ugh, it was not fun. But we soldier on with the Ibuki vote eventually votes piling up on you. Apparently you were really angry about Sayaka doing that, and told celeste likewise, locking in your sayaka vote. (I also talked to sayaka about her failing to set celeste and akane up against each other and pushed her onto you solidly for self preservation). And then chihiro apparently leaked your vote to you and akane, le sigh. And kyoko wanted to flip to sayka but celeste begged her to flip back (I think, I'm not entirely sure). After this it seems to be a bunch of me and celeste flirting and calling each other sexy beasts cause....eh. And then uh...yeah you went home. Basically, because of a 4 AM talk with Celeste and a lot of pressure from us and Sayaka, we managed to send you home (I am not reading my other PM logs there would be too many). So like when it comes to how I was strategically involved with you, I was very much involved with being the one who turned a name mentioned into an actual plan of attack, and succeeded. To be honest, I did feel bad about it, like you were actually really cool and had nice last words for everyone, but you also killed makoto and I felt bad when you talked about him offering an alliance first phase...because I've done that before, and I liked him. I'm not quite sure that's meant to make you feel good about me, but if you want someone to blame for your death, I'm a pretty good candidate. Hopefully you can respect that decision and my ability to pull it off. If not, I understand. |
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Post by Ibuki Mioda on Oct 12, 2018 0:00:17 GMT
definitely
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Post by Gundham Tanaka on Oct 12, 2018 0:02:49 GMT
I mean more in line of "you're all pretty sweet even the people who kinda didnt talk to me if i get out here then everyone has a chance at getting my vote good luck guys and ill see you on the other side <3" But *shrug* |
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Post by Shuichi Saihara on Oct 12, 2018 0:07:46 GMT
okay i was waiting for nagito and gundham to answer that last question before i asked the individual ones but i guess theres not much time left so: Shuichi:as you may know, you and me spent the most rounds together, with four. however, we never really... clicked with each other, i guess? as you may also know, survivor is a social game, and it in the end it depends on the relationships you made if you wanna get someone's vote. so answer me this: whether it be strategic, social, or physical, what specific aspect of the game should i base my vote on tonight? I wouldn't phrase it as we never clicked. More that 3.5 rounds (merge doesn't count because you were super busy and already a ghost) wasn't enough for us to warm up to each other yet. I actually was starting to like you when you mentioned Mongolian Throat singing because I do seriously unironically enjoy it. Most of my friends mock me for it, and I never expect to find someone else that listened to it, and when you mentioned that it was so random and I was like, "Did I finally find someone else?". For the first bit I wasn't super sure how to talk you I agree, but I think we would have gotten along more if given more time. And if it means anything, I was loyal to you originally so you can't be angry at me for not trying to have a relationship with you. The fun part of jury, is it doesn't matter what I think you should base your vote on, since you're the one in power now. That's your call, and using what I know of you, I need to know what specifically appeals to you. That's where the social part comes into play because you need to know people as humans to have a shot at that. So it's true I don't know you as well as some others here, but they don't call me the ultimate detective for nothing! I detect that you mentioning all those things means they're all somewhat important to you, and you're basing your vote on who had the best mix of all of that. When it comes to social game, I think there's two parts to it that are pretty different. There's the actual being friendly and likeable part and shooting the breeze together type stuff, but you can also play a really good social game while still primarily only talking game with people. I'm probably not the strongest at the first part, but the second part I confidently say I think I had the best social game out of us 3. The other two aspects I also think I played the best, but I suspect your most concerned about my social game. |
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Post by Ibuki Mioda on Oct 12, 2018 0:14:22 GMT
lol i was joking gundham
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Post by Shuichi Saihara on Oct 12, 2018 0:23:02 GMT
okay thanks ^-^ next question: if you guys could choose one of the two people sitting next to you to win, who would each of you choose and why? This question is difficult to answer because if I was on the jury I probably would have voted for the third person. Only Mikan wasn't a sure lock, but I respected the way she survived more then the way the other two seemed like default endgamers. So I hadn't thought about which one I'd prefer. I've read both their speeches just to see what their perspectives were. Shuichi in my opinion omitted a bunch of things he did to look better, especially involving me. As someone who spent the entire game with him I think I have different requirements for him to have impressed me. I'm sure he would have written those parts differently if he was appealing to me as a juror rather then an opponent. It still left a terrible taste in my mouth to see him pretend it took Gundham for us to start working explicitly together. I felt like he was low on perception of how little the people he alone met pre-merge seemed to value him, hence how he ended up with all my friends instead. Still he was my plotting buddy and I enjoyed the shenanigans we got up to together. This isn't really an answer. If you'd asked me before FTC I would have said Gundham would never get my vote. I think I'd have more of an open mind now.  Again, it would be nice if you could give specifics on what important things I left out? Yes, we worked and plotted a lot together. But what's the relevant thing or plot we did that's missing that should really affect people's read on me? My speech was getting long enough as it was already, and I had to leave stuff out. And the parts where we plotted together are all things that we'd get joint credit for, and I'm not after a joint victory with you, so for my FTC pitch, I'm obviously going to focus on stuff I did separately from you. I totally think we did cool things together, but if you're claiming you think you'd look better if I mention them, then you're claiming you should get all the credit for it? Is that what you're saying? Then why aren't you mentioning them? I clarified with Yasuhiro that we've been assumed final 2 partners since pretty much from the start. It didn't take Gundham to join us. We were talking about which person would be the best final 3 partner together for awhile, and we decided on Gundham. I made that clear when a juror wanted the specifics of it, but what I said wasn't wrong. Which people viewed me lowly pre-merge without your influence? Mikan who is voting me to win probably? Kirumi and Kaede who were incredibly close in a short time? Sayaka who wanted to work with me over Sonia? Sonia who forewent the easier path for her to survive black dragon because she wanted to survive it with me? I guess I just want more specifics from you. |
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Post by Nagito Komaeda on Oct 12, 2018 1:17:51 GMT
Nagito:i think you said earlier that you stand out because you didn't treat your friends as if they were meaningless statistics. based on the other jurors' reactiobs to the final three, is there anything you would change about your game, given the chance? I mean the easy answer there is I would tell people more. I would tell Sayaka explicitly that Mikan and Shuichi were not on her side and that's why she was going. Hiyoko had a really good plan for a Nagito/Gundham/Hiyoko F3 that I should have tried for instead of voting her out, probably by trying to get Mikan voted out instead of her at F8. I should have survived because of my idols even if she did backstab me so there wasn't that much risk in letting it play out. I'm gonna address this to Chihiro in his thread but I really wanted him to stay so we could sort out why he thought we were bitter enemies because we didn't have to be. I think even when I'm being blunt my intentions can be hard to understand. I've never tried to hurt feelings or do anything mean this game. When I'm direct about something it can come off as me being superior when I'm just trying to say how I see things. Regardless of whether I get votes or not I am sorry for anyone's feelings I hurt. |
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Post by Nagito Komaeda on Oct 12, 2018 1:19:21 GMT
I'll answer Shuichi later since he can't reply to me anymore anyways. <3
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Post by Ibuki Mioda on Oct 12, 2018 1:31:14 GMT
alright, thats all! thanks guys! ^-^
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Post by Nagito Komaeda on Oct 13, 2018 0:48:07 GMT
Again, it would be nice if you could give specifics on what important things I left out? Yes, we worked and plotted a lot together. But what's the relevant thing or plot we did that's missing that should really affect people's read on me? My speech was getting long enough as it was already, and I had to leave stuff out. And the parts where we plotted together are all things that we'd get joint credit for, and I'm not after a joint victory with you, so for my FTC pitch, I'm obviously going to focus on stuff I did separately from you. I totally think we did cool things together, but if you're claiming you think you'd look better if I mention them, then you're claiming you should get all the credit for it? Is that what you're saying? Then why aren't you mentioning them? I clarified with Yasuhiro that we've been assumed final 2 partners since pretty much from the start. It didn't take Gundham to join us. We were talking about which person would be the best final 3 partner together for awhile, and we decided on Gundham. I made that clear when a juror wanted the specifics of it, but what I said wasn't wrong. Which people viewed me lowly pre-merge without your influence? Mikan who is voting me to win probably? Kirumi and Kaede who were incredibly close in a short time? Sayaka who wanted to work with me over Sonia? Sonia who forewent the easier path for her to survive black dragon because she wanted to survive it with me? I guess I just want more specifics from you.  Okay Shuichi, I've prepared a special punishment for you. My personal Shuichi burn list. Because you specifically asked what I would hold against you as a juror. First, I think you should have ignored me in FTC instead of getting defensive. I baited you into explaining things that happened in our clique because you knew they were true. The jurors didn't. I think they would've believed you if you said I was delusional. Voting Hiyoko in F10OP Speech: Later: The number one thing I'd do differently, is not make an alliance with Hiyoko the round I voted against her. It would be such an easy and minor fix. I would want to go back and not make a deal with Nagito (in an effort to distance ourselves) to split our vote. We could have easily sent Hiyoko home if we just both did what we actually wanted. Instead of explaining why you personally agreed to the distancing plan you acted like it didn't happen in the OP. Were you hoping I wouldn't bring up that I left you to vote Hiyoko by yourself? You didn't argue against me voting Yasu at all so the parts about protecting him don't seem genuine either. In my opinion you didn't care who left and that's why you agreed splitting votes was a great idea, and why you didn't have a good reason for doing it. Voting Kirumi/Sonia in Black DragonsYou weren't going to vote Sonia. You didn't post in clique to ask for an opinion like you're claiming, you were talking about how nice Sonia was and that Kirumi wasn't social enough for you to carry so you'd made the decision. It sounded like you'd grown to like her a lot. That you weren't asking but telling us what was going to happen makes more sense because neither of us'd met the two people you were voting between. Why would you expect us to have a preference? I think it's good that you changed your mind but I thought you wanting to throw an ally like that away instantly for someone who'd shown they didn't care about blindsiding you looked.. sheepy for lack of a better word? Mediators/Sayaka's opinion of youIt's true that I was in a bad spot on Future Foundation because I upset Chihiro. You were in the worse position going in though. People who'd met you saw you as a compromise boot later. That's what I mean by not making good pre-merge bonds, if they'd carried through voting me either there or at F12, you weren't much higher on the list. I can say despite messing up with Chihiro, when we were in the merge with more people I knew, the possibility of voting me disappeared because people like Kyoko went hard to bat for me. Which would have happened in FF as well imo, so maybe you weren't as safe for one more round as you think. The Despair HairpinsThe way you handled this item was pretty sloppy. You showed it to Sayaka and expected her to keep it a secret, which she didn't. You were then going to show Kyoko and possibly Sayaka the note saying the item was a fake. I had to be the one to tell you Sayaka had likely told people already and that if you didn't keep the fake note a secret every person would know it was fake by F11. (the part where Sayaka did tell people collaborates her not valuing you that much.) You tried to vote me out at F6This isn't a clique thing tbh but I want to point out how bad this plan was because I still can't believe you actually did this. You spread idol rumors to make me the target and actually voted against me. I shared a lot with you but I didn't tell you I had idols before you asked, after you'd already put the rumor out. What do you think would have happened if I didn't have one and just knew what all the puzzles were? Or even worse if I only had one and decided to save it because Celes/You/Gundham should all have been on Akane? Ignoring the position it would put you in the next two rounds and if you'd make it here after, do you think as a juror I'd vote for you if you voted me out that way? I don't think you considered that at all at the time. Voting for Mikan at F5This is a collaboration with Celes but the things you're saying about how voting Mikan would keep you safer in F4 are my words to you. Originally you weren't thinking of voting Mikan at all, you only changed at the last minute. I present it as my last piece of evidence that ultimately I think you didn't have a good handle on your own opinions, mostly did what more convincing players wanted you to do, and wrote down the reasoning later. |
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