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Post by Sayaka Maizono on Oct 9, 2018 21:28:47 GMT
Everyone keeps using that word to describe me but I don't follow it at all.
I pushed people who I wanted gone because they clearly working against me.
I wasn't opposed to working with anyone at any point in time. Is that the crazy part? That even though Celeste was pushing me I tried to work with her? That even though akane savotaged my game as soon as merge started I tried to work with her?
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Post by Kyoko Kirigiri on Oct 9, 2018 21:39:09 GMT
celeste was pushing you hard bc you kept backstabbing her when we really wanted to work with you lmao
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Post by Sayaka Maizono on Oct 9, 2018 21:44:52 GMT
"kept backstabbing"
I stabbed the first vote. The second vote (when Chichi went home) she was organizing votes against me so I went along with everyone who wanted to see her go.
Did I stab again?
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Post by Yasuhiro Hagakure on Oct 9, 2018 21:46:48 GMT
What I remember is, on Ibuki's round I was told you were pushing Hiyoko, then Ibuki, then Celes, and all that was before we even knew who was immune. And I was like wow this girl's crazy why is she doing this.
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Post by Kyoko Kirigiri on Oct 9, 2018 21:47:21 GMT
she wasnt organizing votes on you until after the blindside debacle happened afaik
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Post by Kyoko Kirigiri on Oct 9, 2018 21:48:05 GMT
you were probably about the 5th or 6th best positioned player in the merge before you started playing hard which is the best position to be in
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Post by Sayaka Maizono on Oct 9, 2018 21:54:11 GMT
I was never organizing votes on yasuhiro. Fake news.
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Post by Yasuhiro Hagakure on Oct 9, 2018 21:56:00 GMT
[Celes] wasnt organizing votes on [Sayaka] until after the blindside debacle happened afaik I think |
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Post by Kyoko Kirigiri on Oct 9, 2018 22:01:30 GMT
yeah i got ninjad and forgot to clarify
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Post by Kyoko Kirigiri on Oct 9, 2018 22:03:14 GMT
anyway im off now love you all <3
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Post by Hiyoko Saionji on Oct 9, 2018 23:45:09 GMT
yeah you were nuts, i did the leaking thing which was nuts obviously but you definitely played this merge about the worst you could have.
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Post by Akane Owari on Oct 10, 2018 0:36:51 GMT
yeah pretty much what hiyoko said, both of you played the worst possible games you could have played  by making way too many plans and believing in none of them. it's a losing strategy but people keep falling for it. |
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Post by Yasuhiro Hagakure on Oct 10, 2018 2:34:30 GMT
Um.
I just wanna say, it's easy to be here now and have all this clarity on like who everyone was actually close to and all, but I think you were doing the best you could at the time with what you knew and who you had to work with so, uh yeah I definitely wouldnt say you played the worst. I don't want you to walk away from this feeling like you played horribly y'know? I think this merge, and this game in general, was pretty stacked and so really we should all be content with how far we came. Uh, yeah.
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Post by Hiyoko Saionji on Oct 10, 2018 2:36:54 GMT
oh yeah absolutely you should be proud, you made merge with ease and played as hard as possible at the merge
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Post by Celestia Ludenberg on Oct 10, 2018 2:43:06 GMT
celeste was pushing you hard bc you kept backstabbing her when we really wanted to work with you lmao Ya this. Like I was all gung ho for me, you, Kyoko, Gundham, Chihiro as a swell alliance. Then I tried to organize the Ibuki vote and then you pushed me that round and disappeared and pissed me off and that burned our bridge. But we were cool before then. |
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Post by Chihiro Fujisaki on Oct 10, 2018 3:02:51 GMT
I feel like you recognized that you weren't as close with Celeste/Kyoko as Gundham/me to a lesser degree were at the start of merge, but saw that as more of an immediate threat to you than it really was, which caused you to overeagerly place your trust in Akane before you could get a better read on her. There were some communication lapses amongst the 5 that I feel added to your paranoia, like I wasn't told until wayyy later that you'd been being floated as a vote, bc of other people assuming someone else told me I think, and people not liking you being afraid to talk to me about it...like I think Hiro was the first one that told me Celeste had told him and I was CONFUSED why he was getting more clear info than I was. But uh, sorta related to that. I wasn't really sure whether Hiyoko/Hiro were being looped in more with Greys+me than you were in Greys' plans, so I probably didn't ease that for you? + because you went into merge immediately talking to me about feeling threatened by Celestia/Kyoko/Gundham it made it harder for me to honestly emphasize to them that this is a tight, functional 5.
God sorry I'm so rambley. I think you're naturally more risk prone than I am and that's something that you should find a way to embrace, but it does make it harder for me to give you advice. That and I'm no expert myself. It's more accurate you overplayed than that you're crazy.
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Post by Celestia Ludenberg on Oct 10, 2018 3:43:59 GMT
Ya I wouldn't say you're crazy at all. I think you made some big moves that would have made sense for you later in the game way too early. Like you definitely should have tried to backstab me at some point, but your timing was all wrong. Good moves done at the wrong time have a tendency to come off as crazy, but that doesn't mean your strategy and all that weren't in the right place.
I really do hope you play again. I think you're a very good social strategist and you'll get better with timing and all that the more you play.
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Post by Hiyoko Saionji on Oct 10, 2018 3:45:21 GMT
you're certainly not crazy as a person you were fine interpersonally
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Post by Celestia Ludenberg on Oct 10, 2018 3:46:54 GMT
Ya no interpersonally you're fun and adorable <3
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Post by Akane Owari on Oct 10, 2018 4:06:54 GMT
chichi hit the nail on the head. If you read my confessional you just ran to me (an easily spooked person) and spooked me and I freaked out. I did totally see you as a #1 for a while until you tried to turn on me too. If you hadn't tried to blindside me with grey that one time maybe I would have tried to save you in F8, and I think a lot of other people would have too.
ie. there comes a time when things get a bit too crazy and you need to step away from the computer sometimes. I recognized that somewhere early on in merge and I think it prevented me from turning out as a "crazy person". But you weren't actually crazy.
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Post by Hiyoko Saionji on Oct 10, 2018 4:09:45 GMT
yeah if you just chilled at final 9 and let me get voted off and been nice to people that probably would have been enough
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Post by Akane Owari on Oct 10, 2018 4:32:55 GMT
Because then I would have wanted to work with you to get rid of Gundham or Kyoko at F8 even though you correctly didn't trust me  |
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Post by Sayaka Maizono on Oct 10, 2018 4:35:40 GMT
Akane weren't you talking about how you and Mikan were forever #1 with a death pact?
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Post by Akane Owari on Oct 10, 2018 4:52:20 GMT
Okay sure I had a blood pact with Mikan, but you and Celeste (at seperate times) were the other people I wanted to protect & work with the most. I put down my 3 #1's in my confessional as mikan celeste sayaka. I think that was the BB round? before I voted out yasu.
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Post by Celestia Ludenberg on Oct 10, 2018 4:54:01 GMT
I think one testament to Gundham is that I was pretty dead set on working with Akane all game and he did a really good job of convincing me I couldn't trust her.
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by making way too many plans and believing in none of them. it's a losing strategy but people keep falling for it. 
