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Post by Mikan Tsumiki on Oct 9, 2018 4:21:10 GMT
Nice game guys, you did had some quality stuff going on here.
That Final Immunity was super sweet, I just wish it was less about how fast you could do it and more about how many answers you could get correct. Yes, I know there was a quiz at the back but it wasn't too difficult even for someone like me. Maybe there just needed to be different forums that you could take which might lead you to the wrong quiz answer? Idk, overall it was a really unique and cool challenge.
My gameplay: I had faults as per always but I do think I played well enough to win. I couldn't do much about the double idol and immunity run so my only other option would have been to vote out Gundy which just wasn't realistic with the way the game state was at. I was so good about not being a threat and staying ahead of the vote but between items never needing to come out and the allies I chose being a little batshit crazy, it was just too difficult to end with a strong F4 in my favor. I underestimated how close Nagito/Gundy would be with Shui and assumed that he was the obvious boot there.
Someone... they didn't agree. My only solace will be to prove them wrong so I'll fight to let Shui win who I think is a very admirable winner.
I can't help but go home disappointed though as I thought for a brief moment that I might have finally won a game of Survivor.
Mechanics: Sweeeeetttt yeah I know we complained about the twists at times but I think this game had just the right amount of fuckery. Lets be real, there was stuff from all over past games such as "boggles" elimination and popularity contests and mutiny options plus a big brother round... yeah I had a good time with it all. I just assumed this game would end me with some silly twist early (it almost did with Kirumi coming back) but I got lucky.
This was probably the hardest I have ever had to fight for a game of survive with the amount of TCs I went to and the constantly shifting Tribes. I think the cliques are a great addition to games even if it does encourage players to show favor to players in them.
The challenges themselves weren't too terrible. It's hard to create new unique things and you guys certainly did that but yeah, I really struggled with some of them obviously. I'm a poor example as I just don't have great hand eye coordination and have been generally bad at challenges. I'm still pretty shocked I won that FFR thing.... I would have liked to see more slower paced things that just required timing and patience like the ultimate impostor challenge.
Mod team - Congrats on a game well designed and well executed and I hope you create more in the future despite the obvious undertaking. This game was massive and took a long time to finish and I'll miss being on once it finally wraps up. I won't know what to do with meh hands!!!!
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Post by Monomi on Oct 9, 2018 4:27:04 GMT
<3
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Monaca Towa
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Let's all be friends and kill the adults <3 xoxo
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Post by Monaca Towa on Oct 9, 2018 4:34:31 GMT
Originally I had offered all available 4 spots on the warriors of hope out... However, after watching your game, I am compelled to create a 5th spot because...I'm god damn fucking Monaca Towa and I can do whatever the hell I please. Would you like a spot? <3
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Post by Mikan Tsumiki on Oct 9, 2018 4:41:45 GMT
Ughh fine lol
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Post by Monokuma on Oct 9, 2018 4:42:04 GMT
I agree with you on the quiz and wish I had included more things like "what room did Melani discover" or even "which person lied to you in the investigation" but I was unfortunately rushing as life got away from me. There's room for improvement for sure but i am glad you liked it.
thank you for the kind words <3 i know there were some flaws but honestly i think we just want this game to be remembered fondly as part of the great history of MS survivor
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Post by Mikan Tsumiki on Oct 9, 2018 5:08:20 GMT
I'm sure it will It's a very heavy game and had plenty of good characters. The Merge went a little different then I imaged it to be and there isn't much you can do about how players play but as far as the concept goes and the mechanics, I was impressed and would eagerly sign up for another game you made.
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Post by Mikan Tsumiki on Oct 9, 2018 5:08:32 GMT
That all of you made
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Post by Mikan Tsumiki on Oct 10, 2018 16:00:49 GMT
Nagito -
Just so you know, I am well aware that I am also a cocky asshole and I'm hypocritical and stubborn and a sore loser...... so no matter what happens, I acknowledge that you placed higher then me and beat me out at the end.
I still fully expect you to lose and my goal at this point is that people should consider more then just "who is the threat." In this case, you didn't consider that not only is Shui the bigger threat to win but also I'm a threat to your game being on the jury. I'm sure this message won't sink in though.
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Post by Mikan Tsumiki on Oct 10, 2018 21:36:04 GMT
I feel people are confusing safety for passivity. I was anything but passive on the masterminds, along with sayaka I formed an alliance group in case. I was very active on the first challenge when there were 3 people doing a lot of writing and everyone else was just "cool with it", I tried my hardest on the puzzles round. In fact the only challenge I ever sat out was labors of kirumi because my internet connect was bad and would have lost us the challenge. On the 20 questions challenge I debated non stop with Makoto and Leon over the optimal way to ask questions (asking or questions instead of single questions) and had we used that strategy a little more (specifically asking about oscars with jackie chan as the character), we would have asked probably around 3 fewer questions and won the challenge with no need for a tiebreaker. Me and Nagito (and everyone else) did a lot of the work on the maze for the mass public debate (admittedly you were a lot better at that) and on the trivia challenge I got two questions perfect. I was devoted to helping my tribes not have to vote people and even though I obviously was not the only one to do this, I certainly contributed a lot to this. Because of my integral role on these tribes and yeah, social relationships I was fine going into the merge.
Also like, most of my "active" moves, happened early in the merge, when things could have gone south for me but I was protected due to things I had set up beforehand. Like the Ibuki vote, sure I was not one of the people who specifically pitched to it, because by the time I had just talked to Celeste about how it would be optimal (Kyoko also did this) and before I could turn around the votes were already on Ibuki. Hell in the big brother round you know I was the reason that yasuhiro went home, because I decided to step in and talk to you when the other votes were already locked up. Then where was I, oh yes, at final 9, with a bunch of people who wanted to work with me (Kyoko, Celestia, Shuichi) and a bunch of people looking at Hiyoko and Sayaka, who are both people I know might not want to see me at the end. So I was in a position where no one was going to going to target me in 2 rounds, and the people who believe then wouldn't want me gone. So, WHY WOULD I FUCK IT UP BY TRYING TO GET TOO INVOLVED. And hell, why were Sayaka and Hiyoko in a position where they might get voted out, you were the swing vote you should know. Oh yeah, because I convinced you to let Hiro go before Sayaka. But even more so Hiyoko was in trouble because during the second round she leaked the celeste vote to celeste, but that wasn't what got her in trouble. What got her in trouble was Celeste telling you that Hiyoko was the leak, you might ask, why would she do this instead of I dunno, pinning it on Yasuhiro who you suspected of the whole thing. Well that was because celeste specifically asked me "what should I do?" and I told her to tell you exactly what she told you, that Hiyoko was the leak. If I hadn't done that, Hiyoko might be suspected of it but isn't for sure guaranteed to be a target. Then the greys get targeted and die off leaving me in a sea of people with few friends and maybe an idol (but idols are stupid compared to not getting voted for).
You were also the swing vote on the round that was Sayaka vs Hiyoko part 2, and I tried to move mountains to just get you to swap your vote, sure Celeste did a lot of work with the execution of that, but who went to Sayaka and got her to admit she wanted you or Nagito out in a quote (maybe she talked about it to other people but she didn't think for sure it could work until I talked to her), which brought you *this* close to voting her over Hiyoko. So yeah, I was pretty active this phase, I just knew who to focus on getting votes. The same with the Kyoko round, I convinced Celeste and Kyoko to vote for you initially (well Celeste convinced Kyoko I believe, but I convinced celeste) and I also suggested (though it was parallel thought) that they switch to shuichi for the end, which led to you still being cool with Celeste the next round. And also, shuichi wasn't the only one saying nagito probably had an idol, that was also me. I also told him to play the idol that I figured he had, but I was smart enough not to vote into said Idol, and it didn't matter who Nagito voted for, Celeste and I could have voted for whoever we chose (though our options were limited) and who we decided went home went home. So like...how is that game passive? I think it's just efficient is all, doing a lot of work pre-merge, setting up an easy path to the end from final 9, working on swing votes but not getting tangled up in the mess that everyone else was caught up in, and being able to walk to the end with little resistance. Shuichi worked harder, I worked smarter and Nagito...did something I guess. This was a really long answer to a question asking why they thought passive play would be better then active. What does it say to answer that? Idk, nothing really. I think it's because Gundy doesn't have a good answer and now I'm sure it's finally sinking in why people wanted to take Gundy to the end. You need to have proof for how your game was impactful because making it to the end by being safe is boring AF and the Jury don't care gurrrrlllll
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Post by Mikan Tsumiki on Oct 11, 2018 20:12:51 GMT
Oooohhhhh Snap, I've upset Gundy.
Poor guy... he probably isn't feeling very confident right now.
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Post by Mikan Tsumiki on Oct 11, 2018 20:53:28 GMT
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Post by Mikan Tsumiki on Oct 11, 2018 22:20:05 GMT
Uhh... what Akane? I don't know what you are seeing that makes Shui's FTC so terrible to change your opinion on his gameplay but to each their own.
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Post by Mikan Tsumiki on Oct 12, 2018 4:33:43 GMT
haha Gundy is upset for basically be compared to Jigglypuff and I essentially just called her Jigglypuff. Oops?
Sorry, people have their own way of playing I guess and don't make it seem like you are any less deserving Gundy but like, you don't get my vote for deciding to give it your all in FTC but hide during the actual game.
And no, you weren't active during the game. You seem offended that people are saying you weren't but they are speaking the truth. You found strong allies, hid and waited and then wow... those strong allies took you all the way to FTC. You can claim to have impacted the votes and been a presence but no one saw you that way because you were frankly too scared to stick your neck out. This is why people want to make moves in a game of survivor, so that people will remember them as a power player. You are caught in a situation where you are having to reverse a months worth of gameplay in just a couple days and that shit don't work.
Fortunately, you are doing a steller job of staying active and giving long thoughtful replies so I'm sure you will get a few votes from what I can tell, people are either voting Shui or they are torn between voting Gundy/Nagito. Duh Mikan, those are all the options.... what I mean is that half the jury will vote one way while the other half is split between 2 people meaning I still expect Shui to win.
He gave the weakest FTC but it wasn't bad imo but he wins because he was already recognized as a power player while the two of you... well, they you just weren't.
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Post by Mikan Tsumiki on Oct 12, 2018 4:39:06 GMT
Celest and I get off on two very different kinds of pandering lol.
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Post by Mikan Tsumiki on Oct 13, 2018 22:59:46 GMT
This is when I vote Gundham because I'm an asshole and just cares about screwing up things and not really about who wins.
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