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Post by Shuichi Saihara on Sept 29, 2018 19:39:24 GMT
Final 6! Wooo! So, that last vote I think set the stage pretty nicely for the endgame. Kyoko going kind of breaks the silver trio alliance and the alliance opposing them into a more free for all state and I think it's going to mainly be a scramble to the final 3 now.
So, Kyoko had really went lowkey the last bit, probably strategically because she knew she was looking threatening. I think she did a little too well and she became not threatening enough. Frankly put, I didn't see a world where her in the game would help me get to the end. Players like Celes and Gundham are yelling "Akane is a jury threat" and Akane and Mikan are yelling "Celestia is a jury threat". Whether or not I'm a jury threat remains to be seen, but at the very least I am and will continue to be a potential target, at least because I'm good at challenges. There's an easy non-personal reason to target me right now at all times. "Shuichi will win challenges and this is maybe the lsat time to target him". So I couldn't go along with the Akane vote. Also, when Akane and Mikan tried to change the target to Celestia I couldn't go along with that either. I need players with targets on there back in the endgame so I have a hope of convincing others I'm less of threat. Mikan literally told me she wanted Kyoko in the final 3 because she thought she could be her. If I go along and take out Akane then Celestia, the final 5 I'm going to be one of the more noticeable players left (if only because of challenge performance) and that's way too soon to start relying on immunity wins.
The most important part, is for the order of votes heading into the end game to be an easy order to stay alive in. Kyoko going first while I still had Akane as a vote against her was the only time I could see her easily going. Gundy and Celes really didn't seem that keen on getting her out. Mikan didn't. I'm hoping the targets on Akane and Celes will be enough to keep me alive through to final 3.
As for who I want in the final 3? Nagito is one. It's between Gundham and Mikan for the other. I think I have a shot against them? I also suspect if I do win, it's going to be a very close battle, and it would be decided based on arguments in FTC.
I hope I still have loyalty of people. I haven't heard anything from Gundham or Mikan since the vote so.... hopefully I'll talk to them soon.
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Post by Shuichi Saihara on Sept 29, 2018 19:42:47 GMT
Gundham threw his vote on Akane so I'm pretty sure I still trust him to be with me.
I think Mikan was the one who voted Celestia? Still waiting to hear from her. Not entirely sure what her reasoning was.
Nagito is always kind of hard to read, but I think we're still good!
Akane is a tricky cookie.
Celestia voted me last time but I'm pretending not to care. And I don't hold it against her. But it's clear she isn't completely loyal to me.
One thing I hope to fish out is who told Kyoko she was the vote? So many could have.
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Post by Monaca Towa on Sept 29, 2018 21:00:24 GMT
With only 6 of you left and only 2 slots left to fill on my Warriors of Hope, which of you remainders will earn my picks?! 1. That vote was nuts. You may have already answered this question, but indulge me and give me a bullet point play by play as to how the votes ended up the way they did. Were there scrambles? Were there last minute switches? I want to know everything! Details details <3 2. This entire game, no idols have been played. Do you suspect any exist at all? If so, then who do you think has them and when do you think they will be used? If not, then do you have a "perfect" plan on how you believe the next two votes go? 3. Which player would it really suck for you to see win Immunity this round? Why is that? 4. At what point did you feel most vulnerable looking back on the entirety of this game? If it's now, why do you feel that way? 5. Which three people do you feel have the best/better shot of beating you if you make the FTC? 6. Have you killed any adults lately? That's all for now, more to come later! Congrats btw, it's super exciting to make a final 6! Good luck to you in challenges and votes! May the odds be ever in your favor.
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Post by Shuichi Saihara on Sept 29, 2018 21:45:11 GMT
Why is your hair a bunch of cucumbers? Also 2 slots???? I'm intrigued by that. It's not the final 3, or the winner. 2 slots???? 1. I still haven't fully got the whole story and who leaked who. But here's the gist of what happened. Akane: Wanted to blindside Kyoko this round, while organizing a blindside on me with the silver trio in case of idols. When she found out the silver trio were potentially voting her instead of me, she got more paranoid of idols and wanted to switch to Celestia. I told her no. Some point after that, the silver trio did target me so it was dicy in case of an idol, and I don't know how they figured out, but either way, it seems like Akane stuck on Kyoko. Nagito: My clique pretty much contains all my dialogue with him lol. As far as I know, he was like "yeah lets vote Kyoko and not complicate things". I'm not sure how truthful he was to the others or if he lied. Gundham: I told him I was targeting Kyoko, he wanted Akane targeted and a big reason why the silver trio didn't originally go along with Akane's blindside decoy. I tried to get Gundy to vote Kyoko with me, but he told me he was throwing his vote on Akane instead. (After telling him I would not be okay with him voting me) Good thing too, or it would have tied and that would be annoying. Mikan: Huuuuge question mark what she was doing. She seemed to be the leak to Kyoko, and she seemed to vote Celestia? She obviously had an alliance with Kyoko especially since she defended her hard. I think she threw her vote too, so good thing I got Kyoko gone while I could with all these people throwing their votes. I'm a little miffed if she was the leak causing Kyoko to target me. Celestia: She was wanting Akane gone from the start, and told me about Akane targeting me as a decoy. I agreed Akane would be a good pick, but I told her Kyoko is better to get now. She said she'd vote for Kyoko next round, but I didn't really want to rely on that, when I had the power to get her out this time. I thought my honestly would get her to throw her vote on Akane or someone like Gundham, but she actually voted with Kyoko to get me out in the counterpush, so respect. She came clean and said she knew I wasn't going to have enough votes to go home, but it rings a little hollow. I want to know if she thought Akane and Gundham would be voting with them. Either way, I need a bit more information still. 2. I'm always a little paranoid about idols. I really wish I spent more time on the wordsearch when I found it because it probably wasn't solved then. (I did notice the mom spectator) At this point, the only people I see having idols are Gundham or Nagito. Nagito by a bigger margin. Like, the way he talked about it, "I didn't realize there was a mom spectator you have to send it to so I didn't solve it" means he either has it or knew the person who had it. He's never been in danger or felt noticeably nervous about being in a bad position, so he's my pick for idol holder. Gundham might have it to, although I haven't seen as much inclination about it. 3. Hmmm, probably Akane. Mainly because I think I want her gone next round. 4. I felt very vulnerable that round. But it didn't compare as much to the mediator tribe where I was literally the next boot if we lost. I've come a long way I felt very vulnerable in Black dragon tribe too, and the beginning of the hope tribe. I've basically felt vulnerable all game except for early merge. But yeah, definitely mediator tribe. I got lazy on that one. 5. Jury perception is so much harder from this side of the aisle. I have no idea who the "Big jury threats (tm)" are anymore. For all I know the jury is ripping on me right now. I think Akane and Celestia are the to biggest threats, and I think most people alive agree with that. Gundham, Mikan, and Nagito are all people I think I'm on relatively even footing with? Hmmmm 6. Hmmmm, I wonder what you're going to do when you turn 18 and become an adult :thinking:
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Post by Monaca Towa on Sept 29, 2018 21:56:57 GMT
which of you remainders will earn my picks?!
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Post by Shuichi Saihara on Sept 30, 2018 0:44:55 GMT
MonokumaNagito is the mole. Too many things adding up about him that are off.
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Post by Monomi on Sept 30, 2018 1:01:20 GMT
Upupu
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Post by Shuichi Saihara on Sept 30, 2018 1:05:23 GMT
Give me his idols for finding him out.
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Post by Monomi on Sept 30, 2018 1:06:32 GMT
Upupupupu
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Post by Shuichi Saihara on Oct 1, 2018 5:03:55 GMT
I'm kind of happy to win immunity, but if I win everything until the end, the jury will be like, "lol you just survived because you were immune" so I'm a little worried. I'm kind of glad I didn't win last time because it proved to the jury I was still able to survive based on connections alone. But I think I was safe this round had I not won, and I almost feel like it's more impressive to a jury to make it to the end never immune, then immune a lot. Oh well.
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Post by Shuichi Saihara on Oct 2, 2018 22:50:31 GMT
So, if people aren't reading my chat with Nagito, we decided to just let him play an idol and take out Akane. Akane is great, but we both weren't planning to go to the end together as far as I read it. I was telling people that I think Nagito is the only person left who could have an idol, and they came to that conclusion too so Mikan and Akane wanted to blindside him this round. (I thought Celestia was on board but apparently not) I figured best bet is to get a straight answer from Nagito if he had one. He did. So I can vote him with the poeple I said I would, and we could flush out his idol, and still choose who to go home.
I was hoping Nagito would be annoyed at Celestia and Mikan for voting him, but it turns out Celestia didn't vote him, so he's only upset at Mikan. I think there will be enough pressure on Nagito, Mikan, and Celestia next round that I should be fine even if I don't win immunity.
Also, Kyoko told me Makoto gave her something when he died and I was so confused. It makes sense now. Makoto was probably given it by Leon because Makoto already had a tragedy reward.
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Post by Monokuma on Oct 3, 2018 1:24:27 GMT
just fyi there are names on the advantage declaring who had it.
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Post by Shuichi Saihara on Oct 3, 2018 5:18:28 GMT
Oh, the picture of it didn't show for me
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Post by Shuichi Saihara on Oct 3, 2018 22:56:01 GMT
I really do wonder if I had done enough to protect myself if I didn't win immunity. I think I did.
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Post by Shuichi Saihara on Oct 3, 2018 22:56:39 GMT
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Post by Shuichi Saihara on Oct 3, 2018 23:30:16 GMT
This is hard. I am struggling to read the jury here. Mikan might be an undercover jury threat.
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Post by Shuichi Saihara on Oct 3, 2018 23:47:59 GMT
AHHHH. GUNDHAM. I'm like, if we choose to vote out Celestia it should be a blindside. And Gundham is like "noononononono I have to tell her. I would get destroyed blindsiding her." It's not fun having people know they're going home. We're in the endgame Gundham. We just take em out with as little drama as possible. We're doing it together so she'll be equally angry at all of us. It will destroy you more to have her confront you about why you're voting her.
Granted maybe a Mikan vote makes more sense here.
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Post by Shuichi Saihara on Oct 4, 2018 2:52:45 GMT
Ok, it's pretty clear that Nagito is going to be voting Mikan hoping me and Gundham vote out Celestia so he can snag Celestia's jury vote.
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Post by Shuichi Saihara on Oct 5, 2018 2:25:40 GMT
Copy and pasted from my voting thread.
ere's how I see it.
If Celestia wins final immunity, I lose. I'm fully aware of that. If Mikan wins final immunity, I really have a strong feeling that people are being truthful and based on reading the vibes she'd target me. I wouldn't make it to FTC unless Nagito or Gundham votw with me to tie it, but both have told me the other is not someone they see getting a lot of votes. Plus, Mikan would probably have a good shot at wining.
So both cases, whoever wins probably ruins my game.
And I think Mikan is better at challenges then Celestia. So I think voting Mikan here is the right move.
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Post by Shuichi Saihara on Oct 5, 2018 2:27:59 GMT
Basically, I changed my mind. Welp. Idolgeddon. If someone else had the third idol, the last person would have been Cirie'd out.
I think this comes full circle. Me and Mikan are probably both targeting each other this round. Ironically, we were both on the bottom in mediators trying to target the other to outlast and survive. Now in the final round, we're doing it again. But this time I think it's a bit more exciting.
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Post by Shuichi Saihara on Oct 6, 2018 23:32:27 GMT
Monaca's f4 Warriors of Hope Questionaire Extraordinaire!!!! Hello candidates! 3 spots have already been offered on my Warriors of Hope and 1 remains!!! Which one of you will take the spot? Let's see if we can determine that today. 1. First off, congrats to the final 4, some of you may not realize how much of an accomplishment that is, but I do. I just want you all to know that you have my heartfelt congratulations. It's been fun watching each one of you grow and adapt and I'm proud of all of you I hope, in return, that I have been a spectator that you have enjoyed interacting with. I didn't anticipate being one of the most active spectators, but that's how this worked out. I just want to say how much of an honor it's been for me to be a spectator this game. Both the mods and players should be very proud. This isn't a question, I just wanted to congratulate you all and say how much fun I've had spectating this game 2. Who would you dread winning the final immunity challenge? Is this the person you are planning to vote out, or just an option you are considering at this point? 3. Knowing who is on the jury, and that you have a better perspective than any mod or spectator has, who do you think people will vote for? Have you run through the scenarios yet to make that determination? Is the implication of who may have jury votes going to impact who you vote for this time? What do you think the jury is going to respect or not respect about each of the finalists? 4. Which moment in this game surprised you the most? Which move did you make this game that you feel the most proud of? How about the least? 5. Do you think sticking with an alliance is more important than voting out someone you could potentially lose to? If so, what has prompted this mentality from you? If not, how do you determine who might lose to and why? 6. Rate me on a scale from Adult killy kandy eater - bae spec. And that's it! I plan for one more set of questions in the final 3, but again, congrats, and may the best Ultimate win! Putting the questions where they belong! 1. Thank you! This is the furthest I've ever made it! I'm glad at least one spec has been enjoying the game . Not every vote this game has been a #blindside or #bigmove but everyone still came here to win. I'm pride I outlasted so many good players. 2. Mikan winning would be bad, because she said she's voting me. I also want to vote her out. If anyone else wins, I hopefully can still convince them to vote out Mikan. 3. That is something you are probably very wrong about. You guys have a much better perspective than us. I have no idea what the jury is thinking. I'm not even 100% sure if Celestia was a huge jury threat or not. I'm just taking educated guesses based on relationships and players I personally viewed as impressive. I think Mikan is the biggest jury threat left out of the remaining 4. Nagito I'm banking on playing a little too shadily and not making connections enough to make people want to vote him. Gundham has given the impression he's not as central to the tribal dynamics over most people, and I think people have noticed that. (Which is why no one ever targeted him in the endgame). Mikan has played a very good game, and played the middle like I did, but was good at connecting with people I think. I would like to think I could beat her in the end, but I'm not sure. I could argue I literally had the power to vote her out and she's only in the game because I decided to bring her. But I'll worry about specific arguments if I get there. 4. The most surprising moment to me was Yasuhiro getting voted out, followed by Mikan playing an idol. No idea either of those were happening. (Or Chihiro leaving) My favorite move that I did, was probably being able to cover my butt from being part of the group trying to blindside Celestia, and totally get off scott free when the plan blew up and everyone part of it got revealed. Although that probably wasn't the most showy or interesting to the specs, it felt great when I was off the hook. The moves a bit more normal were getting players like Ibuki, Kyoko, or even Sonia out. Yes I'm well aware that it wasn't entirely me, but I was definitely one of the players that really pushed them forward. Worst move on my part was letting myself get a little blindsided the first time Kirumi went out. My gut told me something was wrong, so it wasn't a complete surprise, but bad plays on my part. 5. Hmm, it really depends on my mood. I generally take comfort in the ruleset saying we need to play to win. A lot of time, blindsiding a close ally really hurts your jury cred and you're in a lose/lose situation anyway, in which case I'd just take the route where I go with the ally I'll lose to. 6. Congratulations Monaco! You are the new Bae Soo Bin of the game! OGML is always the only active spec, but I get the feeling you aren't him. Whoever you are though, thanks for sticking through!
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Post by Shuichi Saihara on Oct 8, 2018 5:54:07 GMT
"The way I see it. Nagito, Gundham, and I made a final 3 pact a long time ago. It was way back around the time Hiyoko called all 3 of us out by name which was kind of spooky. We've all been working closely together since then, and I'm voting Mikan because I intend to see it through.
I've voted Mikan 3 times before, and she always finds ways to survive. She's always been on the tribe that loses lots of challenges, yet she keeps surviving. She was on the outside of the merge majority alliance, yet she kept surviving. Her game sticks out compared to any of us 3. As much as I suspect the specs are rooting for the underdog here (if there are any specs left) we can't let her get to the end."
Saving this for later if I need to go public in Gundham's thread thing.
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Post by Shuichi Saihara on Oct 8, 2018 22:51:02 GMT
Nice to know Gundham has been fine tuning his FTC speech for the last month! FTC has always been my weak point in games. This is going to be hard.
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Post by Shuichi Saihara on Oct 8, 2018 23:14:09 GMT
Ok nevermind. rip Gundy's chances of winning. No one is going to read that.
It's now between me and Nagito.
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Post by Shuichi Saihara on Oct 9, 2018 4:10:27 GMT
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