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Post by Monokuma on Sept 17, 2018 1:05:44 GMT
the sound...of silence
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the day the music died
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that one town in that movie where they can't dance any more
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Monaca Towa
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Post by Monaca Towa on Sept 17, 2018 1:12:14 GMT
okay I won't lie, this is legit the coolest challenge I've seen thus far.
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Post by Kaede Akamatsu on Sept 17, 2018 1:12:20 GMT
lol @ the Ibluki is a snake thread
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Post by Monaca Towa on Sept 17, 2018 1:13:16 GMT
XD I kinda feel bad Kore and Ibuki are stuck with each other tbh.
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Post by Monaca Towa on Sept 17, 2018 1:16:20 GMT
Akane's clique fell apart REEEEEEEAL fast.
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Post by Sonia Nevermind on Sept 17, 2018 3:54:54 GMT
Ibuki nooooooooooooo ;-;
Also it seems like a bunch of people want Celestia out but assume that she's too well loved for that to ever happen
I totally didn't recognize Ibuki but I guess its been like a year (wow that long)
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Post by Sonia Nevermind on Sept 17, 2018 4:01:19 GMT
I really like getting to see the clique chat talks btw
Its very neato
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Post by Monaca Towa on Sept 17, 2018 4:09:21 GMT
This...actually could be fairly entertaining if she pulls it off.
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Post by Monomi on Sept 17, 2018 18:52:12 GMT
I think it's sort of neat how everyone left basically has a unique partner in crime. -Akane/Mikan -Nagito/Shuichi -Hiyoko/Yasu -Chihiro/Sayaka --Also Yasu/Chihiro, sort of, but I don't quite see it in the same light -Loser Trio
Granted, some of these groups are not being 100% up front with each other all the time, but who does that anyway? (Shuichi currently feeling Nagito out without yet telling him about the Celes blindside -- even though Akane seems to be saying he knows about it; Mikan has at least considered keeping the idol for herself...)
The least breakable bond seems to be Celes/Kyoko, but, well, they might not have a choice today.
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Post by Monomi on Sept 17, 2018 19:07:22 GMT
~Expanded right-now contenders list~
==Most Likely Winners==
1. Nagito: He's not doing much wrong. It's telling that the slight push against him was almost immediately leaked and destroyed. Two is a pretty good number of idols to have. It's a strong MOR game right now.
2. Mikan: Quietly playing a phenomenal game. On literally zero radars right now.
3. Chihiro: In a strong social position with no one gunning for her aside from Nagito. However, if you have to have exactly one person gunning for you, you don't want it to be Nagidol. Chihiro has done a really good job forming and repairing relationships. Having upgraded Shuichi to on again off again mutual interest status is a pretty good comeback.
==Underdogs==
4. Yasuhiro: Everyone loves Yasuhiro. On the other hand, everyone loves Yasuhiro. When a couple big dogs go down, his impressive social game might be too obvious and make him a target. But honestly, might beat anyone if FTC was held right now.
5. Shuichi: A bit disconnected, but looking solid and no one has much reason to want him to leave because his threat level is very medium. I'd love to see him do well after the uphill premerge he suffered to get here.
6. Akane: She's climbing back up from her brief stint looking like a delusional maniac. She's reconnecting with the right people and defused things with Hiyoko. The fact that she's targeting Celes here I think shows a pretty good game sense. She's very much noticed Celes is not hers anymore.
==Longshots==
7. Gundham: He's made the right choice to go UTR here. He probably benefits from Celes going as that'll force him to start playing.
8. Kyoko: I have no idea what Kyoko's game will look like post-Celes. Maybe she'll start doing things. At the moment, I don't see her having a compelling case to win.
==Unlikely==
9. Celes: Even if she survives this round, she's blatantly the game's biggest player. I don't see much chance she'll be allowed to survive more than 3 rounds from here.
10. Hiyoko: Her access issues are not good. No one seems to be paying her much mind, but she does still seem to have some influence. As it's a final 3, Hiyoko and Sayaka need to find someone they can beat other than each other. Kyoko or Gundham would be my pick.
11. Sayaka: There's a lot of game left to play and it's certainly possible she could put together a Cinderella story, but she's got both a tough road to the end and a tough case to make when she gets there, as most of the game sees her as weak.
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Post by Chiaki Nanami on Sept 17, 2018 19:41:28 GMT
In a scenario where Nagito uses both of his idols and makes FTC i don't see him winning because MS is absurdly anti-idol plays, if the reaction to HHH was any indication.
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Post by Monaca Towa on Sept 17, 2018 19:43:01 GMT
I have thoughts about the contestants as well. I'll post them later once I've gathered my thoughts. Some similarities and some differences.
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Post by Kurokuma on Sept 17, 2018 20:10:44 GMT
In a scenario where Nagito uses both of his idols and makes FTC i don't see him winning because MS is absurdly anti-idol plays, if the reaction to HHH was any indication. that was straight bullshit because Ben was literally impossible to vote out for half the game and when idols were no longer in play he got saved again by an unannounced F4 twist. That's different than just an idol play or two (although I do think people don't love the idol play in general here).
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Post by Kurokuma on Sept 17, 2018 20:20:38 GMT
Shuichi and Mikan are my underdog favorites in terms of fighting through so much early in the game. Hiyoko and Yasuhiro have obviously had their share of adversity to fight through later on and Yasu is very likeable and Hiyoko goes back and forth between being compelling and overly flippant/impetuous.
Mostly agree with everything in that post though, like Sayaka being too low in the pecking order and Celestia being too visibly high. Cheerio doesn't give the specs much but seems like another open social threat that could be targeted and I'm not sure if Akane will ever completely shake her prideful attitude. I think the "Longshots" of Gundham and Kyoko have fairly solid chances of winning.
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Post by Monomi on Sept 18, 2018 0:17:36 GMT
Hey monokuma remember when you were cocky about the masterminds winning all the challenges
How's that lookin
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Post by Monomi on Sept 18, 2018 1:25:54 GMT
Kyoko broke one of the cardinal rules of survivor
Under no circumstances should you ever send a complete bootlist to anyone
It's even worse because it only takes half a brain for hiyoko to go hmm why does it stop at 5
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Post by Chiaki Nanami on Sept 18, 2018 1:27:10 GMT
Illusion: -100
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Post by Monokuma on Sept 18, 2018 1:31:19 GMT
Wait holy fuck lets talk about this brutal masterminds slaughtering
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Post by Kaede Akamatsu on Sept 18, 2018 2:44:48 GMT
Kyoko broke one of the cardinal rules of survivor Under no circumstances should you ever send a complete bootlist to anyone It's even worse because it only takes half a brain for hiyoko to go hmm why does it stop at 5 Goddammit, I’m laughing out loud.
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Post by Monaca Towa on Sept 18, 2018 2:48:55 GMT
i enjoy that many people consider mikan the weak link in challenges...and she just slaughtered them all
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Post by Sonia Nevermind on Sept 18, 2018 3:23:37 GMT
Mikan got the moves
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Post by Great Gozu on Sept 18, 2018 4:44:52 GMT
I'm rooting for Mikan and Akane right now. I legit thought Mikan was going to be a FTC goat early but man am I so glad to be wrong!
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Post by Monaca Towa on Sept 18, 2018 7:53:08 GMT
Gozuuuu! I missed u!
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Post by Monaca Towa on Sept 18, 2018 8:50:06 GMT
Monaca's Hot or Not List: Red = HoooooootOrange = Hoooo-mehhhYellow = MehGreen = Meh-nawwwdawgBlue = NooooooootAkane-Teetering on the brink of Meh & Hooooooot. She has moments where she is queen bee and kicking ass and moments where she has genuinely wtf moments. She does have passion and the ability to make alliances, but she also has shown that she can be played and she is not the force she has been on past tribes. Previously-Likely to Make Final Merge & Green Light. I had no doubts that Akane would be here and a contender to win it all, but voting both cliquemates out and now scrambling to find a bond she can link up with is...perplexing. I'm not sure I am as certain she is a FTC contender as she was a few votes ago. It will be interesting to see if she can reign it in and find a path to the end with people who think they have a shot against her. My prediction: Will end up somewhere between 7th & 4th, just short of FTC.Celestia-Big ol noooooooot. If this round has shown us anything, it's that she had grandeur thoughts that she was queen bee. While it is true people like her, they also want her gone. Aside from Kyoko, idk who would actually want to take her to the end. My assumption is that she is not long for this world. Previously-Likely to Make Final Merge & Green Light. Another person I saw as likely to be here, but definitely someone I don't expect to see at FTC. She's just TOO good. It would literally take a miracle to get her to the FTC or Kyoko being lucky as fuck. My prediction: Will end up somewhere between 9th & 5th, likely one of the next boots.Kyoko-Somewhere between meh and not. My guess is that she isn't going to the end in her hair-brained way she thinks she is and if she does, it's going to be a slaughterhouse with no votes for her to win. If she breaks away from her asanine plan which is doomed, then she may have a shot, but my guess is that she will be drug along as a goat unless she can reforge new bonds. I think Celestia's bond, which has carried her far this game, is going to go away and she will be left with the pieces of a game. Previously-Potential to Make Final Merge, Red Light. I think a lot of Kyoko being here is largely in part because of Celestia. She was EXTREMELY lucky to have survived the first vote, and Celestia took her under her wing. I don't think there's really a scenario where Kyoko wins unless she starts breaking some of the bonds holding her back and starts to play this game to win, rather than settle for 2nd or 3rd. My prediction: Will end up somewhere between 7th & 3rd depending on how the legacy advantage plays out and if she can goat her way to FTC.Chihiro-Meh. This could go either way. I think she is too closely tied to Sayaka and is seen as a surfacing liar. I think she is going to have a tough time if Sayaka leaves this round and is going to flounder a bit. Will that be the end of the line or will she bounce back? Chihiro has played a very decent game up until this point, but the last two rounds have me wondering if she is going to get past the middle tier. Previously-Likely to make the final merge, red light. It was a bit touch and go in the middle, but Chihiro did indeed make this final merge as I predicted. She is a good player, but how good is she really? Only time will tell. My prediction: Will end up somewhere between 8th and 5th. My guess is that she will survive a bit, but eventually not be trustworthy or will be seen as too big a threat.Gundham-More Meh, than Hot, but still Hot. Gundham has had a SOLID game. Somewhere between social, strategical, and physical, he's had ups and downs but ridden them...almost perfectly. Now here in this merge, he is floundering a bit and unfortunately has gotten a bit tangled up in the Celestia web. That being said, if anyone can bounce back from overwhelming odds, or win an upset immunity challenge, I think it's this guy right here. I think if he plays his cards right and makes the right allys at the right time, he has a decent shot to make FTC. However, I think some people may see him as more of a supporting character rather than a winner and it might hurt him in the end. Previously-FTC contender, Green Light. Gundham is strong, but does he have what it takes to get to the end? My predicion: Will end up somewhere between 5th and 1st. Should he make FTC he has a legit case to win, but I assume he will end up somewhat closer to 2nd or falling just short of FTC. Depends on who he is with and which challenges he wins or loses. Also depends on who is taken out when.Hiyoko-Probably a nawwwdawgg to me at this point. I think Hiyoko is playing a strange game. I don't know who would actually respect the flip flopping and betrayals and the very erradic behavior. That being said, Hiyoko does seem to be setting herself up as potential goat material, so she may actually go far depending on how she plays her cards. I do not see her winning at this time though. Previously-Yellow Light, Likely to make final merge. I always thought Hiyoko was her own worst enemy, and until now she has reigned it in ENOUGH to survive, but now I feel like she is floundering. My Prediction: Will end up probably between 6th and 3rd. She seems like the person who is at the bottom of an alliance and will either be cut when convenient, or will goat further.Nagito-Meh. Unpopular opinion, I don't think Nagito is playing that solid of a game. yes he has Shuichi, yes he has two idols, but he's never been in deep with anyone other than maaaaybe Akane and Shuichi. People just don't seem to be willing to go THAT far with him in general. That being said he has safety nets, so I think he is someone who will go far in this game. Does he have what it takes to sway people to want to vote him to win? He does have this riding the middle line, but idk if it's just perceived or whether people actually want to go farther with him. Previously-Potential to Make Final Merge, Green Light. He wasn't as safe as I predicted he would be, but with his double idol safety net I think he will go pretty far. Just hope he doesnt end up like James Clement. My Prediction: Will end up probably between 6th and 2nd. I don't know if people would be super PRO Nagito to win so I think he might be someone who makes it and falls short. Depends on who he is with.Yasuhiro-Hot hot hot. A very very very strong player. Can read a field like it's no one's business. Can call people on their bullshit, but knows when to dial back and let the game happen. I think he's very well positioned and he has shown that he can climb his way back from a losing position. I would be completely shocked if he isn't in the top five with a real shot at winning. No one seems to really consider him a true threat, and I think that's what makes him so dangerous at this point. If I were playing, I'd be like GET YASU THE FUCK OUT CUZ HE GUNNA WIN. And maybe that's exactly what will happen in a couple rounds. Who knows. Previously-FTC Contender, Green Light. I think I hit this one right on the money the first two times, no need to change. My Prediction: Will end up between 5th and 1st. A really good shot to win the whole game, I think he has the charm and gameplay to safely have a case to win, but will others give him the shot or cut him just short?
Mikan-HOOOOOOOOT! God, I was wrong. I was so wrong about her. Her brash confessional and close calls in the first few tribes made me think she had no shot in hell at being here. But now? She actually has a legit case to get far and win it all. Her personality, social, and now surprisingly physical game will likely earn her brownie points. Plus...NO ONE HATES HER. She could literally blindside someone and somehow everyone else perceives it as "reasonable". Whatever she is doing is working wonders and I'm...extremely impressed. Previously-Least LIkely To Make Final Merge, Yellow Light. I take it all back. This chick is tough. imma make a "Go Mikan" t-shirt now brb. My Prediction: Will end up between 5th and 1st. Depends on who she is with, but I think she's a front runner to win the whole thing if she keeps this up. Plus she has the idol as insurance just in case things go south. I like her odds. Go discount Denise StapleySayaka-Ugh this pains me to say it but I think Sayaka is dead in the water. I don't see how she recovers from the last few rounds, which is truly painful because I sorta thought she was an underdog coming into this. I think she gets small tribes and reads them better than large tribes. It may be why she has thrived up until now. Her small tribe positioning has been strong, whereas she was seen as a lesser member of the masterminds in terms of heirarchy. I think the signs were there that she wouldn't do well in the merge, but I'd chosen to ignore them. Well...guess it's time to be real. Previously-Likely to Make Final Merge, Green Light. I had little doubt she would get here, but now she seems to be losing it, and it's...difficult to watch. If she somehow miraculously makes it past the next two or three tribal councils, I think her odds increase as she does better the fewer people that are here. The odds don't seem to be in her favor right now. My Prediction: 11th-9th. If she's not one of the next ones, I will be shocked.Shuichi-With all of the ups and downs this guy has had this game, it's almost impossible to say where he will end up. At the beginning I thought he was a dead ringer to make it to FTC, but now? I don't know. He seems like the kind of guy who will make it far but either be riding coattails or be someone taken out for being a challenge threat. I don't think he's an obvious next boot, but losing Sayaka will hurt. At that point, Nagito will be his lifeline. If for some reason he loses both, idk how he recovers from that. Previously-FTC Contender, Red Light. Truly has been all over and is difficult to place. He could be a dark horse contender, but my guess is that he will be cut before that. My Prediction: Will likely end up between 8th and 4th. He could catch a lucky break and get farther. We shall see.Final Assessment: I think Yasuhiro and Mikan are the frontrunners with Akane and Gundham nipping at their heels. Everyone else sort falls under as either a soonish boot or a goat that will be taken farther. And that's how Monaca C's it! <3
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Post by Makoto Naegi on Sept 18, 2018 8:57:20 GMT
I'm not sold on Mikan doing well given that she just leaked the murder Celeste plan with all details to Celeste... who leaked that she leaked it back to Hiro. Hiro was already not hugely fond of Mikan and now she's completely severed that connection - and Hiro has perfect ammunition to get at least 5 votes on her without question.
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