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Post by Shuichi Saihara on Aug 21, 2018 5:35:40 GMT
None other include the last name
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Post by Kirumi Tojo on Aug 21, 2018 5:43:33 GMT
I think the 2nd sentence explains, illustrates etc the first right But it's not two sentences. I can't comprehend that. My mind refuses to see it as such.
Regardless now that its been stated that the rules are made up and the points don't matter when it comes to these kinds of issues, so maybe we are also so super lucky that none of our bios had super blatant spelling or punctuation errors! Hooray us!
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Post by Shuichi Saihara on Aug 21, 2018 5:59:18 GMT
Wait, I've only seen one typo so far. If there's only one, we can rule that as a mod one?
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Post by Kirumi Tojo on Aug 21, 2018 6:15:28 GMT
'expose vs exposé - typo?" in Lemon's(kingpins), but there's also more within the bio that looks iffy still.
There's also my brain really struggling to come up with why a : would be used in that one sentence that I've already mentioned a probably too many times.
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Post by Chihiro Fujisaki on Aug 21, 2018 6:15:59 GMT
I'm trying to look at patterns within the sets themselves that differ from what we know about the real bios in ours + the bios in the other tribe. I think that's probably the best way to determine what the tribe thought was normal and tried to copy, but actually isn't across most of the bios...because the odds of certain sample size differences seem pretty low.
Masterminds
Between us and Kingpins, 14/14 real bios don't have unnecessary capitalization, while 2 of Masterminds' do. There's something off about their "Flower power!" not being fully capitalized while "Say Bees!" and "Open Wide!" are. Because of that I think there's strong odds of one fake between Albert (Dentist) & Lindsay (Beekeeper). I guess it's possible both are fake and they tried to make them stand out intentionally to make one more legitimate? I really don't see "Flower power!" being fake if those two were somehow real for instance.
Kingpins
Between us and Masterminds, 12-13 out of 14 real bios end in periods while 1-2 end in exclamation points. 3 of the Kingpins' bios end in ellipses, 1 ends in an exclamation point, and the remaining 6 end with a period. Orion Spellkey (astrologer), Lili Scooter (Puzzle Solver), and Dorian Morti (book collector) are the ones with ellipses. I'd lean toward 1-2 of those being fakes but I wish I had a stronger opinion about them individually. Lili's is certainly the most poorly edited.
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Post by Kirumi Tojo on Aug 21, 2018 6:18:09 GMT
I'm definitely going to go un-tilt myself by ignoring this until I can access a computer again tomorrow.
I look forward to also reading others thoughts and coming to conclusions.
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Post by Sonia Nevermind on Aug 21, 2018 6:26:04 GMT
Lili – Starts to get a little weird at the end there, away from puzzles. FCU on that last sentence? Tanya – Boardgamer is kind of weird, I would’ve expected a space probably. Last sentence is the weirdest one. Abi – Statement about parents is jumping out for some reason. Lisa – I like this one, think its real so far. Kia – Hmm… the ultimate here is the only concern I have. Something about it seems contrived. Lemon – It stands out too much for me to think its fake. Lemon is kind of a weird name. But that could be a play. Orra – Spice girl is a weird name for it. Also look at that first sentence and you see the FCU. It also might be a bit on the long side. Dorian: 3 of these end with “…” I’m not sure that’s significant or not. I feel like that’s something people would pay attention to. Dorian and Orion are also very similar sounding, which is jumping. Orion: Quote is weird, ultimate is also kind of weird. But it’s the only one that really mentions something specific to its ultimate that a lot of people wouldn’t know (I Ching) Blana: Nothing yet
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Post by Chihiro Fujisaki on Aug 21, 2018 7:07:28 GMT
Masterminds, in my opinion
Suspicious
Quinton (Crabber)- I have so many questions. Well firstly, besides the strangely repetitive boating mentions, it kinda sounds like whoever came up with this could be basing their knowledge on Stardew Valley. If he's old enough to drive himself to the ocean why's it unrealistic for him to be old enough to go on an expedition? Why are there so many mentions of his types of transportation and so little justification for why he's an ultimate? Why does one need to have a family history to be a crabber?? I also feel like Sonia's point about awkward comma overuse applies more here than to the firefighter one in the case of the first and fifth sentences. Pretty strongly agree with Yasuhiro here.
Albert (Dentist)- Strange Capitalization. Verb tense at end seems to really not fit with how any other bio ends. I dunno if the typo actually matters though.
Barry (Pyromaniac) - The word choice seems noticeably elevated which was something we had to nitpick in our own process. Ellipses in quote and quote in general seems odd to me...also just an overall gut feeling.
Frida Allepi (Breakdancer) - This bio seems like it's straight out of a Step Up movie lmao. Not sure any mods are into dance movies so I don't think that's a good sign?? Like maybe this is also a mod meme but ??
Donna Lipiski (Ultimate Player) - Mostly I just can't get past the Ultimate! at the start of it tbh
Nazeem Redmond (Firefighter) - Kinda see what Sonia was saying about comma overuse/what Kirumi was saying about being overly complicated in the second sentence. Don't feel too strongly about it either way
Lindsay (Beekeeper)- Strange Capitalization but seems a lot more legit than Albert, so I think his is the fake and hers is real.
Delia Thompson - This one has a lot of +s and -s for me. Structurally it seems...different (certainly less commas). There's more of a tragedy theme which I can see fitting with some of ours more than it would be inspired by theirs, though. Delia sounding so much like Dahlia (a flower) is a bit off-putting to me because like...well Tamari Urbani for instance has nothing to do with urban or condiments. The "Flower power!" quote is interesting in the context of the two other Capitalized Mottos in this set. I think it offers a little bit of legitimacy to it, cuz I think if either Lindsay/Albert are real than this as a fake version probably ends up as "Flower Power!"
Melani Leo (Graffiti artist) - I can buy this as written by the same person who wrote to us about Doris Liber the hacker who's not like the other girls, I dunno. I get that it's vague but I think it's trying to be memey. I'm not sure on the name and I think Sonia might've had the same thought??
Emmett Hayes (Ventriloquist) - I really like the quote. Seems like the same person wrote it as wrote "You think that's funny?" from one of our real ones. Style seems quite reminiscent of our bios in general, Idunno.
Not Suspicious
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Post by Yasuhiro Hagakure on Aug 21, 2018 13:23:36 GMT
Ok maybe I'm giving myself too much credit but Regrettably, I must report that it is possible the mods missed one or more typos and/or incorrect word choices. Sorry :$ Name: Lemon Lamoire Talent: Ultimate Newscaster Quote: "Good evening. I'm Lemon Lamoire." Bio: Lemon studied journalism from a young age, writing for the school paper and making expose documentaries about school. He was soon applying to work in a newsroom, but his lack of real-world qualifications kept him out, and the letters of encouragement he would get in response soon started to turn into flat-out refusals the older he got. But then his growth spurt hit early. With a little make-up, a suit, and a faked video reel, he was able to moonlight in the newsroom while still going to middle school. Working his way up, he's received several accommodations and finally got the eye of the producer of the local evening show. First he was just a substitute, but he got to experience a taste of being on the air, reading from the prompter, pontificating the news. Now, he's the regular Saturday night anchor. - expose vs exposé - typo? - "he would get" and "he got" in one sentence - he's received several "accommodations"?? Maybe was supposed to be "commendations"?? You guys think maybe the mod post came because of this?
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Post by Shuichi Saihara on Aug 21, 2018 13:36:53 GMT
Not unlikely. I'm pretty sure it's a more subtle typo, and I wouldn't have caught that. The major one we all individually caught is one I don't see mods missing?
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Post by Yasuhiro Hagakure on Aug 21, 2018 15:56:54 GMT
Well....... maybe. I mean, if all they did was drop it into like Word or something and look for red squiggles then "he" instead of "the" would pass that test. And they did have to make what 27 of the things? I just thought it fit that I made a message with 1 spelling error and 1 wrong word and then the warning was about the same thing.
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Post by Chihiro Fujisaki on Aug 21, 2018 16:35:16 GMT
I think Lemon's is more likely to be real than Albert's but it's kind of hard to believe either of them are real despite the mod message ~_~
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Post by Chihiro Fujisaki on Aug 21, 2018 16:38:04 GMT
Well....... maybe. I mean, if all they did was drop it into like Word or something and look for red squiggles then "he" instead of "the" would pass that test. And they did have to make what 27 of the things? I just thought it fit that I made a message with 1 spelling error and 1 wrong word and then the warning was about the same thing. Well..actually that's a fair point. The "he" is easier to miss with spellcheck than the one with a wrong word and a missing accent...argh.
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Post by Yasuhiro Hagakure on Aug 21, 2018 16:43:21 GMT
Here's where I'm at.
Masterminds goodEmmett Hayes - Ultimate Ventriloquist Nazeem Redmond - Ultimate Firefighter Delia Thompson - Ultimate Florist Donna Lipiski - Ultimate Ultimate Player Barry Cedric - Ultimate Pyromaniac Melani Leo - Ultimate Graffiti Artist Frida Allepi - Ultimate Breakdancer Quinton Crisp - Ultimate Crabber Lindsay Zilch - Ultimate Beekeeper Albert Griffin - Ultimate Dentist badI had Lindsay Zilch (bees) much higher but dropped her because Chihiro is right, they goofed the "Say Bees!" quote. I think "Say Bees!" and "Open Wide" are both capitalized that way because the same person wrote them. KingpinsgoodLemon Lamoire - Ultimate Newscaster Kia Lyamoto - Ultimate Planner Orion Spellkey - Ultimate Astrologer Blana York - Ultimate Plumber Lisa Iwaname - Ultimate Demolitionist Orra Disantia - Ultimate Spice Girl Dorian Morti - Ultimate Book Collector Abi Bains - Ultimate Thereminist Lili Scooter - Ultimate Puzzle Solver Tanya Miette - Ultimate Boardgamer badI'm assuming my guess on Lemon is correct, so he's at the top. I feel a lot less confident about these picks that the masterminds ones
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Post by Mikan Tsumiki on Aug 21, 2018 16:59:54 GMT
I'm here and going to try and catch up. You guys are doing a killer job
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Post by Yasuhiro Hagakure on Aug 21, 2018 17:14:12 GMT
Lili – Starts to get a little weird at the end there, away from puzzles. FCU on that last sentence? What does FCU mean?
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Post by Mikan Tsumiki on Aug 21, 2018 17:30:15 GMT
Masterminds:
Melani - Graffiti - Good Lindsay - Beekeeper - Good Barry - Pyro - Ok Delia - Florist - Ok Emmett - Ventriloquist - Ok Quinton - Crabber - Ok Nazeem - Firefighter - Bad Frida - BreakDancer - Bad Albert - Dentist - Bad Donna - Ultimate - Bad
I would pick Nazeem/Albert/Donna as my three fake options for this team but... it's hard to tell exactly. Ultimate ultimate seems so bad but surely they wouldn't be that risky with it? The mod admitting to a spelling mistake makes the Dentist seem a bit better but even then, it feels bad.
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Post by Mikan Tsumiki on Aug 21, 2018 17:31:49 GMT
I just saw the Open Wide/ Say Bees! Thing so maybe the bees one is lower unless the mods wrote them both.
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Post by Sonia Nevermind on Aug 21, 2018 17:36:10 GMT
FCU - forced comma usage. One of the things I'm looking for.
There's sort of a dilemma with things that jump out at you "Ultimate Ultimate Player" for instance. Your first thought is "obvious fake" but on another level you have to think "well why would they pick something like that ever". They could be trying to make you think that, but since the suspects are chosen by list you can mitigate any risk with stuff like that by just not putting them too low.
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Post by Kirumi Tojo on Aug 21, 2018 18:14:55 GMT
Kingpins:
Kia's is 634 characters and 117 words! Orion's is 635 characters and 117 words! Lili: 749/128 Tanya: 681/124 Abi: 714/133 Lisa: 762/124 Lemon: 812/142 Orra:773/138 Dorian:616/114 Blana: 654/119
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Post by Kirumi Tojo on Aug 21, 2018 18:19:38 GMT
Masterminds:
Melani: 432/83 Nazeem: 762/140 Frida: 694/129 Barry: 615/117 Lindsay: 559/100 Delia: 501/88 Emmett:638/105 Quinton:619/123! Albert:655/123! Donna:404/70
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Post by Kirumi Tojo on Aug 21, 2018 18:20:27 GMT
I should be more fully back in 2-3 hours.
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Toko Fukawa
Victim
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Post by Toko Fukawa on Aug 21, 2018 18:30:11 GMT
I'll provide my unspoiled opinions about the second part. I haven't read any of your comments yet so hopefully it'll match up.
Melani: legit, minor questions about "she is fast, too, and..." Nazeem: fake, use of ;, story seems kinda weird, "father took his son under his wing". Really? Frida: legit probably, only the quote feels a bit weak. Barry: not sure. Don't really feel like the story is as strong. Lindsay: seems legit Delia: seems legit. Emmett: seems legit Quinton: seems legit Albert: this seems a bit excessive on information Donna: idk but this seems just off
Emmett Quinton Lindsay Delia Frida Melani Albert Donna Barry Nazeem
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Toko Fukawa
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Post by Toko Fukawa on Aug 21, 2018 18:41:49 GMT
Same for second set:
Lili: not really buying the second part. Tanya: seems legit Abi: ugh I could see it being fake but it's written well so down the middle I guess Lisa: sure I buy it Kia: this seems like me Lemon: This seems like the Bruce Almighty plot. Orra: I'd say this is legit because of the name alone Dorian: this seems like it wouldn't be good enough as an entry, so it's probably good Orion : idk. down the middle Blana: seems fine
Orra Tanya Dorian Blana Kia Lisa Lemon Orion Abi Lili
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Toko Fukawa
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Post by Toko Fukawa on Aug 21, 2018 18:42:11 GMT
So bottom ones are most likely fake in my eyes.
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