Monomi
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Post by Monomi on Aug 18, 2018 1:26:00 GMT
Sorry for new threading ya. Your innocent hunch is: Sato Your guilty hunch is: Ibluki Blioda Here is your token pool.
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Ibuki Mioda
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Post by Ibuki Mioda on Aug 18, 2018 1:37:33 GMT
not ibluki
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Post by Makoto Naegi on Aug 18, 2018 1:51:46 GMT
I think it might be a good idea to consider aligning ourselves with other teams via the Cliques? Not sure how to go about that, though. I'm turning in for the night so no more messages from me I'll get back to y'all in the morning!
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Post by Chihiro Fujisaki on Aug 18, 2018 3:11:40 GMT
I'm in a clique with Pink (Sayaka) and Yellow (Chiaki) if it helps...but we're not taking it too seriously yet.
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Ibuki Mioda
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Post by Ibuki Mioda on Aug 18, 2018 3:28:16 GMT
i'm in a clique with the ultimate gymnast and the ultimate robot
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Post by Chihiro Fujisaki on Aug 18, 2018 3:38:11 GMT
i'm in a clique with the ultimate gymnast and the ultimate robot I think they're Orange and Silver...
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Ibuki Mioda
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Post by Ibuki Mioda on Aug 18, 2018 3:51:26 GMT
gymnast is red robot is silver
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Post by Makoto Naegi on Aug 18, 2018 9:46:40 GMT
I have Kirumi (Yellow) and Kyoko (Silver)
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Post by Makoto Naegi on Aug 18, 2018 10:13:23 GMT
Er - so between the three of us we have two Reds, two Yellows, and two Silvers?
We should wait for Leon's input two but that means we have a pretty solid chance at securing a Blue-Red-Yellow-Silver alliance for this challenge.
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Post by Makoto Naegi on Aug 18, 2018 10:22:13 GMT
Sorry, no, it's one pink, one red, two yellows, two silvers. Not quite as clear cut
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Post by Makoto Naegi on Aug 18, 2018 11:00:31 GMT
Okay, so I've been thinking about this and I think I have a strategy that would guarantee us safety (if it works...)
We form an alliance with 3 other groups through Cliques (we would need to decide which ones) and then plan to do the following:
- One player from each allied tribe immediately restrains one player on each of the other two tribes, and never releases. This takes 8 people out of action (1 from each allied tribe and everyone from the other two) and leaves 4 people still able to take actions - those 4 on the other two tribes can never be freed, because there is nobody unrestrained who would be willing to free them.
Each of the four remaining players places their +4 token on their Guilty character. Then, if nobody has placed a token on your innocent character, you place a -3 there.
This will guarantee that:
a) Each allied tribe will either have 0 points (if they have +4 on their Guilty and +4 on their Innocent) or 7 points (if they have +4 on their Guilty and -3 on their Innocent) b) Each of the other two tribes will either have -4 points (if they have +4 on their innocent and nothing on their Guilty), -3 points (if they have -3 on their Guilty and nothing on their Innocent) or -7 points (if they have -3 on their Guilty and +4 on their Innocent).
That means that those two tribes would have the lowest scores and nothing else would need to be done. Every allied tribe would be safe.
There is one way this falls through - in the unlikely event that the other two tribes had the same hunches reversed, everyone would end up with 0 points. I seriously doubt this would happen, but if it does, we'd have to start playing the game normally.
Thoughts on this?
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Ibuki Mioda
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Post by Ibuki Mioda on Aug 18, 2018 11:13:31 GMT
makoto you're a genius
i'm totally down for this. which tribes should we ally with?
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Post by Makoto Naegi on Aug 18, 2018 11:24:47 GMT
We still need to hear back from Leon about his Clique (if he wants to make it public, obviously that's up to him) but right now we have two choices, because we can't talk about the plan in a Clique that includes someone from a tribe we're looking to send to tribal...
Red/Silver/Yellow, with it being talked about in my Clique and yours Pink/Silver/Yellow, with it being talked about in my Clique and Chihiro's
We can't overlap you and Chihiro because that would give us Pink/Silver/Red/Yellow which is five with us. There might be more combinations we can do depending on Leon.
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Post by Leon Kuwata on Aug 18, 2018 16:36:50 GMT
I've got Mikan and Kokichi, so Yellow and Green. Yellow is obvious if we're following this plan, I suppose.
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Post by Makoto Naegi on Aug 18, 2018 17:04:09 GMT
Alright, so we have 3 Yellows, 2 Silvers, 1 Green, 1 Pink, 1 Red. We should definitely take Yellow and Silver then (which means I need to talk about it with the others in my Clique), but the third depends on who wants to talk about it with the other players in their Clique. We have the following possibilities:
Yellow/Silver/Pink - Me/Chihiro talking about it in our Cliques Yellow/Silver/Red - Me/Ibuki talking about it in our Cliques Yellow/Silver/Green - Me/Leon talking about it in our Cliques
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Post by Makoto Naegi on Aug 18, 2018 17:41:59 GMT
Errrr... I just realised Kirumi is Green, not Yellow. Bad time for me to suddenly develop colourblindness Lemme figure this out again
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Post by Leon Kuwata on Aug 18, 2018 17:48:43 GMT
Wait, we both have Yellow and Green? That makes things pretty awkward.
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Post by Makoto Naegi on Aug 18, 2018 17:48:50 GMT
...and Kyoko just proposed a plan nearly identical to this one in my Clique, which apparently Gundham came up with. I'm glad they chose to include us in it.
They want to do Green/Silver/Blue/Red... which means we can't talk about it in any of our other Cliques.
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Post by Makoto Naegi on Aug 18, 2018 17:49:08 GMT
No, I have Silver and Green
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Post by Leon Kuwata on Aug 18, 2018 17:50:51 GMT
That's fine with me if everyone else on the tribe is fine with it.
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Post by Chihiro Fujisaki on Aug 18, 2018 18:14:58 GMT
...and Kyoko just proposed a plan nearly identical to this one in my Clique, which apparently Gundham came up with. I'm glad they chose to include us in it. They want to do Green/Silver/Blue/Red... which means we can't talk about it in any of our other Cliques. That's fine with me.
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Post by Makoto Naegi on Aug 18, 2018 18:23:08 GMT
Just a heads up, I'm going to be away for the next two hours or so. Will be back before the challenge and well in time to tell Kyoko whether we're in or not (although for now I've said assume that we are, since we have 3/4 confirmations) and well in time to talk here too I'll respond to PMs then too!
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Post by Leon Kuwata on Aug 18, 2018 19:36:19 GMT
I'm going to be in and out until challenge start, but we should probably nail down exactly how we're going to approach this challenge. I can be around at the start, who else can? And who's going for what when the challenge starts?
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Post by Chihiro Fujisaki on Aug 18, 2018 20:05:15 GMT
I've been having unusually spotty internet this morning (keeps losing connection every few minutes). I'm able to relocate and be available for the entire two hour period if need be, though.
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Post by Makoto Naegi on Aug 18, 2018 20:59:57 GMT
I'll be around, probably for the full challenge if needed.
We.. might have to change the plan. Apparently Keebo (who was supposed to contact Red) hasn't been online, and from what I've seen Green hasn't answered anything either, it's just been me and Kyoko talking in our Clique. I'll keep you guys updated but we might want to come up with a gameplan if this falls through.
Something I noticed is that we could potentially use our Perjury tokens as risk-free -5s on the innocent, because nobody is going to use an Alibi token on their Guilty target. If we avoid putting our Alibis on our Innocent, we could potentially get more points from the people who have that as a Guilty placing Perjury tokens, too.
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