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Post by Gundham Tanaka on Oct 8, 2018 20:28:29 GMT
Aww, you won't write a 1000 page essay about how awesome I am...but....I thought you liked me (JK i was expecting sparse stuff but it does actually impact my decision)
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Post by Mikan Tsumiki on Oct 8, 2018 20:31:47 GMT
Meh, Yasuhiro is the only person who I think will vote me based off just how close we were. Saya claimed she would vote Nagito and I'm not sure what Ibuki would end up doing because she valued a players in strong positions (I.E> she voted out Gonta pre-merge because of that)
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Post by Mikan Tsumiki on Oct 8, 2018 20:46:29 GMT
Aww, you won't write a 1000 page essay about how awesome I am...but....I thought you liked me (JK i was expecting sparse stuff but it does actually impact my decision) Since I've already told you this once, I suppose it wouldn't hurt to reiterate. Your biggest strength and the reason I would consider voting for you is that you were never in danger this game. As far as I can tell, you managed to get to the end and even without immunity, would have walked into FTC without an resistance.
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Post by Shuichi Saihara on Oct 8, 2018 20:55:57 GMT
Pretty much that. I had immunity challenges. Nagito had idols out the wazoo. You didn't have either of that to survive.
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Post by Shuichi Saihara on Oct 8, 2018 20:56:17 GMT
Also, you might get a lot of votes for being a stud.
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Post by Gundham Tanaka on Oct 8, 2018 21:33:39 GMT
A stud you say? Anyway, drafting up thoughts on this at the moment.
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Post by Mikan Tsumiki on Oct 8, 2018 21:41:32 GMT
I'm happy to hear your thoughts as well Nagito. Technically, both of you will have to collaborate on this anyways.
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Post by Gundham Tanaka on Oct 8, 2018 22:22:55 GMT
So my mind is not completely made up, but I have a strong leaning in one certain direction.
First off, Shuichi, Mikan, it's been a pleasure playing with both of you and hopefully we can all be good friends after this game (if we aren't already and just don't know it).
Mikan the way I see it, both you and shuichi have comeback narratives and the difference between them is a matter of how you've managed to survive. Shuichi won immunities and positioned himself in the middle. You were nice and kind and people generally wanted to keep you around. Your game was subtle, and while I think I could beat it in the end, it's very different from Shuichi's and Nagito's. Like since shuichi so kindly offered and alliance at final 11 or so (well it's more nuanced than that but that'll be explained at FTC), I've had a pretty good idea of the pitch he's going for and the game he's been playing. It's one I've been prepared to face if I was at the end with him. Yours is...different, I earnestly believe that honesty and kindness on their own can be enough to win the game so while his game is more strategic, I don't think that yours is unable to secure a win in the face of two people who will be more strategy focused (though I do think I indeed had a social game), and that's just the part of your game that I know about. Like of the 2 of you, you are way more likely to pull out something that the other two of us had no idea about.
The second thing is the spoiler effect that shuichi talks about, but my view is a bit more nuanced than how it's presented. Like when you have 3 people at the end, often times when you have a pair and an outsider, people are often unable to congregate on one of the pair and will vote for the outsider, this is usually because of the intertwining of the pairs plans with each others, meanwhile the outsider has a clear story. (I can link an article on it if you want), Not only is this a theory but it's held for almost every tribal council since season 21 of survivor. Similarly, while you may speak of Shuichi's game, it is one that is still very much tied to Nagito, they've had a clique together pretty much the entire game iirc, and certainly were seen as a pair on future foundation. As such in an final tribal council with shuichi and nagito, I am the likely outsider, and as such have a decent chance of winning. Meanwhile even though Nagito and I were mostly "allies by proxy" this game (Like seriously we rarely talked game with each other due to a good amount of distrust) we still had a stronger relationship than either of us with you, and as such you benefit from being the outsider in such a situation. I also like...don't really think immunity wins are all that convincing of an argument outside of what the player was already doing (you seem to share this sentiment), but I'm sure there will be more discussion of that at Final Tribal Council.
As such, it's probably in my best interest to vote you out here, Mikan. I know you likely vote for Shuichi in the end, and you have every right to, but I have faith in my abilities at FTC to earn other votes, and maybe even yours.
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Post by Mikan Tsumiki on Oct 8, 2018 22:28:26 GMT
I somehow knew you would pick him over me so I've been prepared to accept that.
Shui is just the better player so I really knew I needed to win immunity if I wanted to reach the end. Thats too bad that you see me as harder to beat then the player who is just the better carbon copy of me.
I've only lasted because I wasn't a threat and I managed to be nice to people. Me being nice is why Leon gave me an idol which again... contributed to me staying alive. I don't think there is a spoiler effect because I don't think you or Nagito compare to what Shui has accomplished. In a game where it comes to either making moves or being carried, it's obvious between the two of us which did what.
Good luck in FTC, maybe Nagito will give me a chance to tiebreaker it but that's still a far fetched hope as Shui is the better challenge player lol.
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Nagito Komaeda
Ultimate Lucky Student
Let's commit the perfect crime together so despair can become the foundation of hope!
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Post by Nagito Komaeda on Oct 8, 2018 23:44:25 GMT
I don't think you and Shuichi are anything alike. The game isn't over so I can't be sure you seriously believe that rather then underselling yourself. This isn't the place for me to convince you of that, though. Or the differences in our games. I'm just going to talk about you versus Shuichi.
You've talked about how you don't think your relationships with Chihiro, Yasuhiro or Ibuki would change anything. That you were weak and carried and they won't respect that. The side you're leaving out is how we're not much better off in that department. Chihiro is someone I thought I could only get closer to via you. Yasu you've admitted is your friend. Ibuki and I only had one TC round of blissful PMs. Even if it's just a toe you have a bigger in to that door. Shuichi may have been on the same tribe as you but his interactions with them were completely different.
What about Shuichi himself? He'd become the last juror after I voted him out because I'm an asshole who doesn't keep their word to their best friend. Is that really what I want my last message to the game to be? Fuck you, I'll fuck anyone, anytime for any reason? I'm not a robot. I think you'd also agree he probably won't vote me and rightfully so.
I don't think you're unbeatable. I just think on the scale of whether you or Shuichi is a worse opponent that you'd be worse for me. I'm sorry but nothing that's been said has changed my mind on that.
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Post by Mikan Tsumiki on Oct 8, 2018 23:52:14 GMT
Ohhhh kay then lol
That's not at all surprising coming from you Nagito >.>
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Post by Mikan Tsumiki on Oct 8, 2018 23:54:27 GMT
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Post by Mikan Tsumiki on Oct 9, 2018 3:20:16 GMT
I see you there Hiyoko!
When is an appropriate time to rage quit? Asking for a friend...
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Post by Mikan Tsumiki on Oct 9, 2018 3:33:33 GMT
Last chance scrubs, vote Shui and keep the deranged Mikan.
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Post by Mikan Tsumiki on Oct 9, 2018 3:45:52 GMT
Allll right you guys asked for it!!! Mikan's super secret special move!!!!!
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Post by Gundham Tanaka on Oct 9, 2018 3:49:16 GMT
And a song to cap this all off:
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Post by Mikan Tsumiki on Oct 9, 2018 3:53:48 GMT
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Post by Shuichi Saihara on Oct 9, 2018 3:53:59 GMT
More music to keep us all sane.
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Post by Mikan Tsumiki on Oct 9, 2018 4:02:53 GMT
Give me that C'thulu avatar already jeeze.
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Post by Gundham Tanaka on Oct 9, 2018 4:03:24 GMT
*mods move deadline*
*mods are not around at the deadline they moved it to*
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Post by Shuichi Saihara on Oct 9, 2018 4:04:35 GMT
Why am I still nervous. MODS END MY SUFFERING
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Post by Mikan Tsumiki on Oct 9, 2018 4:08:12 GMT
Lol please, a blindside does nothing at this point.
You're fine.
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Monokuma
Headmaster
headmastbear
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Post by Monokuma on Oct 9, 2018 4:09:00 GMT
I will now read the votes: First vote: Second, third, and fourth vote: Mikan, you are the last member of the jury. Game over! Time for the punishment!
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